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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 01:37 AM
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WOO HOO !-- i guess i will find out about bumpsteer firsthand in about a week

So on the freeway you have to be extra attentive ? Or this is just an issue on the streets?
It's more of an issue at speeds simply since things are happening so quickly. But it's not really life-theatening or anything, at least with the 1.25" drop my truck has.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 02:04 AM
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It's more of an issue at speeds simply since things are happening so quickly. But it's not really life-theatening or anything, at least with the 1.25" drop my truck has.
With bump steer problems, are there any long-term ill effects regarding the longevity of certain suspension parts? Any extra wear due to this issue?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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It’s amazing what one can learn in a few months…


Please tell me what the average front drop would be for someone interested in a bump steer kit.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Like Tim, mine's about 1.25".
 
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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As for long term wear YES mainly the tires.As the toe moves in and out it is scrubbing the tires too.as for other affects it is safer if there is less toe change.Afriend and my navagator for the silverstate said the truck was boring to ride in at 150.it did not move when it went over the bumps and stayed in the middle during and after we went over them.The best compliment he gave me was his grand mother could drive this thing at 140 like it was running 35 mph.It make for a much more predictable vehicle and much more stable.Stan
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 03:48 AM
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Please tell me what the average front drop would be for someone interested in a bump steer kit.
I’m not asking for my health…
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 04:22 AM
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For a Refresher

For those of us (including myself) that haven't had auto mechanics class lately, you might find this article informative.

http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=13

Mark
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Sign me up for one of the bump steer kits for sure! I have the Roush installed and the bump steer is really annoying and makes the truck hard to control. Cost wouldn't be an object.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Interested
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Hello….if you want a kit then I need answers to my question. The average amount of drop will determine what style of kit gets made. 1-2” drops on a Lightning will necessitate one design and larger drops will require another, so that is why I need to average drop.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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I would use 1.5" or so for an average drop. I think thats what I saw with the Roush setup. I would think that would be pretty common especially for a more perfomance oriented person that would be interested in a bump steer kit. Also I think at that level you could achieve great results with just relocating the outer tie rod ends. For a 3-4" drop it would seem that more intensive geometry changes would be necessary.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by psmith
I would use 1.5" or so for an average drop. I think thats what I saw with the Roush setup. I would think that would be pretty common especially for a more perfomance oriented person that would be interested in a bump steer kit. Also I think at that level you could achieve great results with just relocating the outer tie rod ends. For a 3-4" drop it would seem that more intensive geometry changes would be necessary.
What he said, I might go a little lower, but no more than 2", max.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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My Ground Force kit said a 1/2 drop. But I also took the second from the bottm leaf out of the rear. Now the rear has ever so little rake. The stock wheels are now symmetrical with the wheel wells and that's low enough for me. I would guess the front is down 1-1 1/4. A bump steer kit that works between a 1 and 2 inch drop and gets better handling with less tire wear is always a good thing.
Keep us posted.

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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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I hear you, Stan, but it's just a matter of degrees. For those lawyers you describe, you are far more likely to get sued over brake parts than steering pieces. Especially when the only people who would buy the bump steer kit are very educated consumers who assume a certain degee of responsibility for how they install highly specialized race-only parts -- as opposed to some schmuck who drives to the corner tire store to get new shoes with 50,000 mile oil that is 2 quarts low.

As an attorney who also makes motorcycle parts, my advice to myself is (1) form a limited liability entity (corp or LLC) and (2) get products liability insurance. Then make whatever the hell you want and sleep well at night.

But then again, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't sell seat covers without the above.

Ruslow, LLC, a member of the Silver State Group of Liberian companies?
Tim.. i agree with what you stated, but I think Stan should find out if single member LLC's are allowed in his state. The IRS does not recognize single member LLC's in certain states, therefore Stan would create a Schedule C on his 1040 return from the partnership K-1. Stan you might think about starting an S-corp or create an LLC with 2 partners, you can allocate the LLC's shares to be 99% and 1%. Also with S-corps you still have limited liability and yo u dod not have to file a $500 annual report. I would consult a tax professional and a lawyer to figure out your best approach. There are pros and cons with all enities, it basically boils down to how large the company will be... roughly and exactly what business aspects will be flowing in and out of the company..partnerships are very complete beasts! Thats why I love them!
 

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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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So when can we get some made!!!!!
 
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