quiksilver, when i go to the track i take the 20" off. i went with them one time for s&g and i ran a 14.0.

 

Your 100% right yysenhimer, but the problem is that 12.8 @ 106 was with the old set up. Since then I added a Accu-Fab, Plasma Booster , Truck Trak Bars, 28x10 Hoosiers, and yet I gained No ET and lost MPH. (even know my 60ft is 2/10ths better)
I should have gained at least 2-3 tenths. What makes me know it's a timing issue right now is, originally I couldn't break into the 12's with a low timing tune, and I constantly experienced a running out of gas feeling at the track (We also thought it was a fuel issue) as soon as I added timing that running out of gas feeling went away and my ET improved. This yr, I tried running it on the "Even Lower Timing" Nitrous program and look what happen#47 98MPH with a 1.7 60ft


That program is burned for 4LB plus NITROUS Runs @13-15 Degrees of Timing.
The thing absolutely died on the top end and was cutting in and out like it was out of gas. (it was due to my low timing)
I switched it back to the 15/16 degree side and immediatly ran a 12.7 minutes later without any cool down (no more cutting out feeling)

Then a few weeks later I switched it back to the low timing side and used the juice for the next run and got a 12.3 @109MPH.
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So I know it's not a fuel issue but in "my case" a timing issue.
Of course Juice needs a little less timing.

So for me, right now I know that degree or 2 of timing I lost from my previous program is hurting me. However I also agree with you that doesn't mean thats someone elses problem. Me, I've done enough testing to know it's a timing issue.

To tell you the truth, I kinda like all this tune and testing,
I'm learning alot without going overboard first and hurting something. But I'm learning

 

Switching from 3:55 to 3:73 will also change the mph, not by much but seems like that could be the difference in mph as well.