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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Crower Cams

We are happy to announce that we have just become a distributor for Crower Cams. First order was shipped yesterday and another will be shipped in about a week.

The Crower people say they are getting great horsepower with these cams, but for obvious reasons, I'm not going to post any #s until we can test them ourselves.

Grind stats can be found on their website, www.crower.com.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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are these just for built motors with high boost? or are they also beneficial to a mildly modified truck? hows the install of cams on a mod motor, i never really thought about doing it, is it a weekend driveway job, or is it a pain in the *** with special tools, etc?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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Man, talk about coincidence. I just now got off the phone with Crower asking about the cams and was going to post some info when I saw this post.

Here's the page that list the cams:
Crower SOHC cams

The guy I talked to says the stage 2, which give good gains, is the most he would do on a street car. He said the stage 3 had higher gains but the idle was "really violent". He said they were working on improving the stage 3 to make them streetable but right now they aren't.

I was wondering which tuner would carry these. Looks like Tim saved me some phone calls looking for them. I'll have to give REM a call soon.
 

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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I cant find the 5.4l specs on the crower site? anyway, how streetable are the high boost cams (if you know yet)?

EDIT: nevermind - posted while i was typing
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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The 62802 is the streetable version. It will have some loping at idle. The 62804 is, according to Crower, a race-only cam.

The regrind program utilizes #s 62800 and 62801 and are very streetable.

Crane also has a regrind program that is very streetable. I had this cam in my truck for over a year and it performed very nicely. No loping and gave "ok" power (we didn't have REM or a dyne at the time, so I don't have hp #s)

Looks like we finally have a few cam options to work with. More coming too.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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If you understand how this engine and blower combo work you will realize that no cam change is going to make much of a difference. The coolest thing about forced indunction (especially with this type of blower) is you can get away with small overlap and still get outstanding performance. In fact, you can hurt power by adding too much overlap since the boost will be pushed straight out the exhuast during the overlap period. That's not the case naturally aspirated as the exhaust pressure is normally higher than intake pressure.

But, I'm sure you will still sell a lot of them to people who just can't find enough things to spend their money on.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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If you understand how this engine and blower combo work you will realize that no cam change is going to make much of a difference. The coolest thing about forced indunction (especially with this type of blower) is you can get away with small overlap and still get outstanding performance. In fact, you can hurt power by adding too much overlap since the boost will be pushed straight out the exhuast during the overlap period. That's not the case naturally aspirated as the exhaust pressure is normally higher than intake pressure.

But, I'm sure you will still sell a lot of them to people who just can't find enough things to spend their money on.
I'm sure this will sell, and perform, just as well as ported intake plenums do.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by '99 White Lite
If you understand how this engine and blower combo work you will realize that no cam change is going to make much of a difference. The coolest thing about forced indunction (especially with this type of blower) is you can get away with small overlap and still get outstanding performance. In fact, you can hurt power by adding too much overlap since the boost will be pushed straight out the exhuast during the overlap period. That's not the case naturally aspirated as the exhaust pressure is normally higher than intake pressure.

But, I'm sure you will still sell a lot of them to people who just can't find enough things to spend their money on.

I'm sure this will sell, and perform, just
as well as <insert your favorite money wasting part here!>

New announcements, Tim, bring out the tuner bashers
in the worst way ... Grats on the new part ...
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by '99 White Lite

But, I'm sure you will still sell a lot of them to people who just can't find enough things to spend their money on.
'99 White Lite,
I remember someone posting a while a go stating that anything done to the engine after the point where the air hits the supercharger is a waist of money, was that you? Something about the supercharger being constant flow? You may be correct. Struct me as an odd statement though. Basically I interpeted it as saying that if you take two naturally aspirated engines, say a 200hp 5.4 engine and a 400 hp 5.4 with heads/cams etc, then stick our Eaton on them with the same boost... the new horsepower of both engines would be basically the same. Didn't really make sense to me but what do I know .

I'm going to order the new cams, not because I can't find enough things to spend my money on, but because I think it will make my truck faster. It may or may not, have to see. Seeing Quick_Pick-Up run a 11.39 @117mph w/ new cams and ported heads makes me think they might work though. Sounds like he gained almost half a second with them.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Simply dismissing the cams as being unimportant on a forced induction motor is a mistake. Tell that to a T/F racer. I think the cams will show respectable gains assuming the necessary development went into them.

I'm glad to see these parts out; now if we could just get some aftermarket heads I would go ahead and do the hole motor.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Oh god, here we go again. Cam arguments again.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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'99 White Lite,

No need to believe me, call any one of the other tuners and ask them if they are running stock cams in their trucks.

Odin,

Thank you for your input.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Odin,

Thank you for your input.
No problem. Always happy to help.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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Ive seen the first Lightning out here with Custom Crower cams last August.. Lemme tell you, these suckers make power. However the grinds he can get a hold of, Crower wont sell you. they are of stage 3 and have one hell of a wicked idle and lope.

If you dont think ported heads and cams do anything for forced induction, then you need to remove yourself from the glass house as i have about 12 tons of rocks to drop on it.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by TimBurntire
...call any one of the other tuners and ask them if they are running stock cams in their trucks.
I think JL ran all last year with stock cams. He only did a best of 10.59 though...
 
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