things that void warranty....
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things that void warranty....
so my question is what are all the things that void warranty besides the obvious, pulley, chip nitrous,......chroming the wheels doesnt void it i hope? or does warranty only cover engine componets and i can do whatever with the appearance of the truck thanks
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Most appearance mods do not void warranties.
A drop might , if the dealer is very picky. Chrome wheels no , but 20s, maybe. It all depends on how much of a ***** the dealer wants to be.
they could say the heavier wheels destoyed your brakes or the lower suspension caused the tranny to go. HIGHLY unlikly, but I put nothing past FoMoCo. They are in economic hardship.
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A drop might , if the dealer is very picky. Chrome wheels no , but 20s, maybe. It all depends on how much of a ***** the dealer wants to be.
they could say the heavier wheels destoyed your brakes or the lower suspension caused the tranny to go. HIGHLY unlikly, but I put nothing past FoMoCo. They are in economic hardship.
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You own an SVT. That alone is premise to void.
I know the dealers have been treating SVT owners a little better over the last few years. However, when i got my 96 and 98 Cobra, it was horrid going to a dealer.
I know the dealers have been treating SVT owners a little better over the last few years. However, when i got my 96 and 98 Cobra, it was horrid going to a dealer.
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hell, my Ford dealer in my town would probley void my warrenty for clear taillights or my bugshield
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There is no such thing as "voiding the warranty"
There is no such thing as "voiding the warranty."
Ford cannot "void the warranty" for mods, they can only denying a particular claim. For instance, if you were running every mod on the planet and your oil pump froze and locked the motor, you would get a new motor--the failure could not be traced back to the mods. If, however, you threw a rod, it's your bill.
If the door latch breaks, I don't care if you have installed a 5,000 HP top fuel engine--the door latch gets fixed.
A Ford dealer tried to deny warranty service on the brakes because I bled them before bringing it in. When I reminded the service advisor what I did for a living (attorney) and asked if he was willing to prove to a judge that anything I did affected the brakes, he fell silent and wrote the service ticket.
Ford cannot "void the warranty" for mods, they can only denying a particular claim. For instance, if you were running every mod on the planet and your oil pump froze and locked the motor, you would get a new motor--the failure could not be traced back to the mods. If, however, you threw a rod, it's your bill.
If the door latch breaks, I don't care if you have installed a 5,000 HP top fuel engine--the door latch gets fixed.
A Ford dealer tried to deny warranty service on the brakes because I bled them before bringing it in. When I reminded the service advisor what I did for a living (attorney) and asked if he was willing to prove to a judge that anything I did affected the brakes, he fell silent and wrote the service ticket.
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Tim,
I hear ya, but we are not all lawyers and the cost to get said lawyer may not be worth the hassle.
Also , it is your truck so you would go to the enth degree to have the problem resolved where another lawyer may be intimidated by Big Blue.
No flame, just an observation.
VINNIE
I hear ya, but we are not all lawyers and the cost to get said lawyer may not be worth the hassle.
Also , it is your truck so you would go to the enth degree to have the problem resolved where another lawyer may be intimidated by Big Blue.
No flame, just an observation.
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Yeah Tim,
It's not like it would COST you anything to sue, huh?
Many years ago, I installed many systems into legal
practices, and the overarching requirement was make
it right the first time, cause sueing is their BIDNESS.
At least it kept us on our toes ...
It's not like it would COST you anything to sue, huh?
Many years ago, I installed many systems into legal
practices, and the overarching requirement was make
it right the first time, cause sueing is their BIDNESS.
At least it kept us on our toes ...
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I do have an unfair advantage, but there are lots of low- and no-cost alternatives to a lawsuit.
First, if the dealer is plainly in the wrong, keep escalating the issue at the dealership until you are talking directly to the owner if required. Make it clear that you will never stop until you are satisfied. If the owner won't deal with you, whip out the manual and have him call customer service (number in the owner's manual) on the speakerphone.
Second, you can call the customer service number in your owner's manual on your own. They can reason with a f*cked up dealer.
Third, demand arbitration--the number is also in the owner's manual.
Fourth, call the Better Business Bureau. They also have free arbitration (I am enrolling in a class to be a volunteer BBB arbitrator).
Fifth, you can file a small claims court action. Attorneys are not allowed there, so you needn't fear the swarm of Big Blue lawyers.
Remember, Ford does not have unlimited access to lawyers. Their lawyers have a fixed amount of time per year. Farting around with your petty claim is not something worth a lot of time from an employee for which that have to pay $200K of more including benefits. Further, the dealer itself does not have free lawyers.
If you are right, stand your ground. Don't back down an inch. Not an inch. If one guys says no, demand to speak with his boss. You would be surprised how far that will get you.
I have always been a demanding assh*le and have never had to sue anyone. I just carry a bigger stick now.
First, if the dealer is plainly in the wrong, keep escalating the issue at the dealership until you are talking directly to the owner if required. Make it clear that you will never stop until you are satisfied. If the owner won't deal with you, whip out the manual and have him call customer service (number in the owner's manual) on the speakerphone.
Second, you can call the customer service number in your owner's manual on your own. They can reason with a f*cked up dealer.
Third, demand arbitration--the number is also in the owner's manual.
Fourth, call the Better Business Bureau. They also have free arbitration (I am enrolling in a class to be a volunteer BBB arbitrator).
Fifth, you can file a small claims court action. Attorneys are not allowed there, so you needn't fear the swarm of Big Blue lawyers.
Remember, Ford does not have unlimited access to lawyers. Their lawyers have a fixed amount of time per year. Farting around with your petty claim is not something worth a lot of time from an employee for which that have to pay $200K of more including benefits. Further, the dealer itself does not have free lawyers.
If you are right, stand your ground. Don't back down an inch. Not an inch. If one guys says no, demand to speak with his boss. You would be surprised how far that will get you.
I have always been a demanding assh*le and have never had to sue anyone. I just carry a bigger stick now.
Last edited by Tim Skelton; Jan 16, 2003 at 07:19 PM.
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Originally posted by VINNIE
Good points.
Thanks for taking my reply as intended and not a flame.
VINNIE
Good points.
Thanks for taking my reply as intended and not a flame.
VINNIE
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Re: There is no such thing as "voiding the warranty"
Originally posted by Tim Skelton
There is no such thing as "voiding the warranty."
Ford cannot "void the warranty" for mods, they can only denying a particular claim. For instance, if you were running every mod on the planet and your oil pump froze and locked the motor, you would get a new motor--the failure could not be traced back to the mods. If, however, you threw a rod, it's your bill.
If the door latch breaks, I don't care if you have installed a 5,000 HP top fuel engine--the door latch gets fixed.
A Ford dealer tried to deny warranty service on the brakes because I bled them before bringing it in. When I reminded the service advisor what I did for a living (attorney) and asked if he was willing to prove to a judge that anything I did affected the brakes, he fell silent and wrote the service ticket.
There is no such thing as "voiding the warranty."
Ford cannot "void the warranty" for mods, they can only denying a particular claim. For instance, if you were running every mod on the planet and your oil pump froze and locked the motor, you would get a new motor--the failure could not be traced back to the mods. If, however, you threw a rod, it's your bill.
If the door latch breaks, I don't care if you have installed a 5,000 HP top fuel engine--the door latch gets fixed.
A Ford dealer tried to deny warranty service on the brakes because I bled them before bringing it in. When I reminded the service advisor what I did for a living (attorney) and asked if he was willing to prove to a judge that anything I did affected the brakes, he fell silent and wrote the service ticket.
know any lawyers in the Ventura County CA area ?
--wes
Last edited by red00Lightning; Jan 16, 2003 at 07:24 PM.