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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:21 AM
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Great stuff Sal..

The best reason yet for me to keep the 02 and not jones for an 05...
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:29 AM
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Sal, I would be very interested in a before-and-after dyno on a bone stock truck. I would be looking to bolt on an aftermarket supercharger (and larger throttle body if required to support the airflow) and running up the boost until the charge temps exiting the supercharger are roughly the same as the stock Eaton. I am not interested in a chip or any other mods, with the potential exception of high-flow cats.

Charge temp seems to be a fair basis on which to compare blowers.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by Dale-01L
We'll see what 25-30psi will make for HP once I get a built motor in my truck!

-Dale
I'm over here drooling literally!!! That is truly BAD ***!!!

Hey Dale, no rush bud, I'm still trying to beat you atleast once more!!

p.s. NOT my truck above!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 04:32 AM
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I would also be extremely interested in a Dyno exactly like the one tim is suggesting. The Stock computers capabilities to compensate for more boost seem to be excellent, and the stock programming much more flexible than most thought, so it would be very noteworthy research.

Exit charge temps would be the perfect place to start.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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This sounds like one of those mods that will call for a built motor. I am also curious about other upgrades needed to take advantage of that much boost.

Just off the top of my head, I am thinking built tranny to handle the torque...what can the drive shaft handle?

Then the fuel system may need upgraded to keep fuel flowing to all that extra boost. Maybe some head work(valves).

What else????

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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by 03LightninRocks
This sounds like one of those mods that will call for a built motor. I am also curious about other upgrades needed to take advantage of that much boost.

Just off the top of my head, I am thinking built tranny to handle the torque...what can the drive shaft handle?

Then the fuel system may need upgraded to keep fuel flowing to all that extra boost. Maybe some head work(valves).

What else????

Thanks,

Rocks
Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords did a test with a stock engine with a stock chip (on 100 octane) and stock fuel system and got 522 rwHP. That's plenty for me. Granted, that was just a few dyno pulls, so maybe the block and tranny can't hold up long-term.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords did a test with a stock engine with a stock chip (on 100 octane) and stock fuel system and got 522 rwHP. That's plenty for me. Granted, that was just a few dyno pulls, so maybe the block and tranny can't hold up long-term.
NO, that was a KB blower...these are two totally different blowers!!!

I hope that I'm one of the first on the list to get one...I've been on the list for awhile Can't wait though
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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very good #s indeed sal,the ? is when there going to be available to us sal
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Well I see we have hit the point where the years just keep getting more and more expensive with the mods Now if only my job will give me a raise


Tim - I'd love too see that dyno comparison also. If they need I will donate my truck in the name of research
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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I was lucky enough to get that phone yesterday while attending an SVTOA meeting. Excellent numbers. And you guys say us west coasters are just catching up
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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I have been on the list at Razors Edge for awhile now. Can't wait to get mine. I plan on pushing this blower for all it has. Can't wait to see about 30psi on my boost gauge.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Hi Sal
So.....to get 18 to 20 lbs boost outa that deal, what pulley ratios did you have to use ? Was that with just a 2lb lower ?
Thanks Dale
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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This blower was run on this same truck, when it had the stock motor on it as well. It made 509rwhp, also with 19psi, and that was with a 2lb lower, and 3.00 upper. The truck ran like that for a while, with no engine problems, and also no detonation problems, even with no bypass, and on CA gas (a testiment to the efficiency of the blower). After the PSP long block was installed with the CNC ported heads, boost dropped a bit from the obvious less restriction, so a 4 lb lower was installed, with the same 3.00 upper, and that brought it back up to 19 psi.

Tim's idea of testing is a good idea, but I really don't think it's a fair comparison. If you were testing two blowers of the same size, then you could fairly compare them based on outlet temps. But the Works 140 blower is almost 50% larger than the Eaton, so it's not really something that can be compared. Since the 140 moves so much more VOLUME of air, it can produce way more power. At high boost levels, the outlet temps are naturally going to go up (more compression=more heat). However, if the Eaton was capable of reaching the same boost levels, it's outlet temps would be WAY hotter. If you want to compare something between the Eaton and the 140, then look at a typical truck, with all the bolt ons, cranking 19 psi. Most trucks like that barely hit 450-rwhp, and the torque has dropped usually over 100 ftlbs by the upper rpms. On this truck with the stock motor, the 140 made 509rwhp, and torque barely dropped 50 ftlbs across the power band. That's some serious usable power.
 

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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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sal, not trying to be a pest, but IS THERE any ETA on these things?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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I have heard around the middle of January. Thats the latest lie anyways.
 
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