HID hi/low beam
Well you would have to define "waste" for us. IMO, it would be a waste of money to put PnP HIDs in stock fog lamps/head lamps, period.
Technically speaking, HIDs don't have a "high and low" beam. In a 9007 or H13 housing, HIDs are located at the normal "high beam" spot of the old halogen filament. So you are always on "high beam" (thus causing 90% of the glaring issues). The magnetic base then pushes or pulls the bulb forward or back, but again- this isn't how high/low optics work, so whatever is left of a crappy beam is just going to get skewed around even more.
I installed bi-xenon HIDs in my truck when I was 16. It took me two years to realize the "coolness" of blue lights doesn't supersede the usefulness of proper light output, beam spread, and a functional high beam. A year and a half after I had bought bi-xenon HIDs, I junked them and put normal Silverstar halogens back and and I'm glad I did. Here is what my lights looked like before with the crappy eBay HIDs:

That is stock aiming points. I had to drop them a good 15* downward to stop blinding people (I got flashed all the time) and by the time they were low enough not to bother other people, I had nothing but glorified fog lights they were pointed so low. I couldn't see maybe 50 feet in front of the truck. You don't want to see what the "high beams" looked like.
Technically speaking, HIDs don't have a "high and low" beam. In a 9007 or H13 housing, HIDs are located at the normal "high beam" spot of the old halogen filament. So you are always on "high beam" (thus causing 90% of the glaring issues). The magnetic base then pushes or pulls the bulb forward or back, but again- this isn't how high/low optics work, so whatever is left of a crappy beam is just going to get skewed around even more.
I installed bi-xenon HIDs in my truck when I was 16. It took me two years to realize the "coolness" of blue lights doesn't supersede the usefulness of proper light output, beam spread, and a functional high beam. A year and a half after I had bought bi-xenon HIDs, I junked them and put normal Silverstar halogens back and and I'm glad I did. Here is what my lights looked like before with the crappy eBay HIDs:

That is stock aiming points. I had to drop them a good 15* downward to stop blinding people (I got flashed all the time) and by the time they were low enough not to bother other people, I had nothing but glorified fog lights they were pointed so low. I couldn't see maybe 50 feet in front of the truck. You don't want to see what the "high beams" looked like.
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Last edited by Raptor05121; Jun 17, 2011 at 03:05 PM.
well whats the proper kit i should purchase to install in my 02 with no fog lights. i still want high and low beams. But i would really like to do it the right way the first time with out spending a million bucks. i am going to use the factory heads not going crystal clear housings. What do you suggest raptor?
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It seems as though you are implying your retrofit is legal?
well whats the proper kit i should purchase to install in my 02 with no fog lights. i still want high and low beams. But i would really like to do it the right way the first time with out spending a million bucks. i am going to use the factory heads not going crystal clear housings. What do you suggest raptor?
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No problem.
You are correct mine is illegal as well. Post edited.
[QUOTE=Raptor05121;4613910]Well how much are you wanting to spend? If you are handy with cutting, you can do a retrofit for under $300. The results speak for themselves.
im can cut and retrofit just about anything mu problem is just having the knowledge of the correct parts to install.
im can cut and retrofit just about anything mu problem is just having the knowledge of the correct parts to install.
you can buy a kit from ww.theretrofitsource.com
and several of us have done write-ups with a wealth of knowledge. you can ask any of us if you need help
https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...t-members.html
and several of us have done write-ups with a wealth of knowledge. you can ask any of us if you need help
https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...t-members.html


