Stop venting refrigerant!!!
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Stop venting refrigerant!!!
Sorry to be a female dog, but ohhhh this chaps my hide. There is a reason why we don't vent refrigerant into the atmosphere! Environmentally friendly refrigerant???!!! There is only one environmentally friendly refrigerant, that's water, H2O, cool clear water...
how about you do the responsible thing, for your kids, their kids, all of us, and have it reclaimed, recovered disposed of properly! It's not that expensive. Stop buying Starbucks coffee three times a day, for a week and get it done right.
Grrrrr. Sorry for the rules and regs I may have violated with this post, but enough HCFCs and CFCs done the damage we are trying to prevent getting worse, by reclaiming/recovering your refrigerant Meh, who cares, no one listening, is this all in my own head? Damn I hate being blonde...Again, sorry Darleanne
how about you do the responsible thing, for your kids, their kids, all of us, and have it reclaimed, recovered disposed of properly! It's not that expensive. Stop buying Starbucks coffee three times a day, for a week and get it done right.
Grrrrr. Sorry for the rules and regs I may have violated with this post, but enough HCFCs and CFCs done the damage we are trying to prevent getting worse, by reclaiming/recovering your refrigerant Meh, who cares, no one listening, is this all in my own head? Damn I hate being blonde...Again, sorry Darleanne
Last edited by Darleanne; Jun 26, 2021 at 03:14 AM.
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No, actually some of us *are* listening. Just venting the refrigerant and then refilling the system when the repair is done does little for the performance of the AC. It leaves air in the system.
I have residential AC equipment. Tanks, recovery machines, etc. All I had to do was buy a couple new recovery tanks and some fittings then grab a pressure-temperature chart for 134a.
Having the correct equipment ensures you can critically charge the system, which is *vital* on package units. They're designed for x amount, no more and no less. Further, you can evacuate the little cans into a recovery tank instead of only half going into the system and the other half being wasted. If you need 33 ounces of 134 but can only get 12 ounce cans, it'll take 5-6 to fill it up the wrong way (due to waste) but just 3 cans to critically charge it and you'll have a little left over.
IMHO those little cans shouldn't be sold specifically due to the waste problem. They're also a complete rip off.
Cheapest way to do it is buy a 25-30 pound jug and a recovery tank, then hook up with someone who's got the right tools to evac, leak test, vac, and charge it. It's not rocket science, just takes some diligence is all.
I have residential AC equipment. Tanks, recovery machines, etc. All I had to do was buy a couple new recovery tanks and some fittings then grab a pressure-temperature chart for 134a.
Having the correct equipment ensures you can critically charge the system, which is *vital* on package units. They're designed for x amount, no more and no less. Further, you can evacuate the little cans into a recovery tank instead of only half going into the system and the other half being wasted. If you need 33 ounces of 134 but can only get 12 ounce cans, it'll take 5-6 to fill it up the wrong way (due to waste) but just 3 cans to critically charge it and you'll have a little left over.
IMHO those little cans shouldn't be sold specifically due to the waste problem. They're also a complete rip off.
Cheapest way to do it is buy a 25-30 pound jug and a recovery tank, then hook up with someone who's got the right tools to evac, leak test, vac, and charge it. It's not rocket science, just takes some diligence is all.
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This also reminds me of a few years ago about a buddy who tried getting rid of used motor oil and the hassle he went through.
I wonder why people just dump it in the trash or down the drain... or in lakes and rivers... it's a pain to get rid of.
I wonder why people just dump it in the trash or down the drain... or in lakes and rivers... it's a pain to get rid of.
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Oh I hear ya. I wish the whole process was easier on both substances. It really *should* be, or at least be cheaper. $2,000 for a recovery unit and tanks is plain stupid but it'll run you that if you buy new.
Honest with the hoopla surrounding refrigerants and advances the technology, thermoelectric is the way to go. It's not like there's a lack of power, when you're pushing 370HP from a stock engine, the option could be offered and a second alternator mounted where the compressor is just to run the peltier unit. Stick the peltier itself under the hood so when it dies in eight years it can be swapped easily.
The only drawbacks to thermoelectric cooling are power consumption and the fact the unit itself wears out faster than a gas compressor does. But... there's no refrigerant to mess with!
Honest with the hoopla surrounding refrigerants and advances the technology, thermoelectric is the way to go. It's not like there's a lack of power, when you're pushing 370HP from a stock engine, the option could be offered and a second alternator mounted where the compressor is just to run the peltier unit. Stick the peltier itself under the hood so when it dies in eight years it can be swapped easily.
The only drawbacks to thermoelectric cooling are power consumption and the fact the unit itself wears out faster than a gas compressor does. But... there's no refrigerant to mess with!