Recapturing Refridgerant Question
Recapturing Refridgerant Question
I'm sorry in advance for this being so long, but I felt it was necessary for a little history first. Here's the deal...
I have a 2002 Mercury Sable with an AC system that will freeze you right out of the car. It has never leaked and the compressor works great; that is not the issue. The AC has run almost constantly since the car was new and the clutch wore out and burnt itself up. It got so hot that it burnt the paint off the clutch hub and smoked the rubber bushings to charcoal! No problem. I bought a new clutch and replaced it and the AC worked great for another week. Now it has started making a horrible grinding noise which I have found to be coming from the drive pulley bearing. The clutch bolt is tight and the pulley wobbles from side to side. The AC still blows ice cold and makes the most noise when the compressor is not engaged. I think what happened is, when the clutch got so hot, it boiled the grease out of the sealed drive pulley bearing.
After studying the manual, I found that the compressor has to be removed from the vehicle to pull the bearing off with a 3 jawed puller. Since I have to break open the system and remove the compressor to repair it, I searched the Internet and got one heck of a deal on a new compressor package for $198. It includes a brand new compressor, bearing, clutch, low pressure hose with accumulator, orifice tube, o-ring kit and 8 oz. of PAG 46 oil. I couldn't pass it up and already have it here with me ready to install.
Now, I would like to recapture the refridgerant and reuse it. I already have an evacuator and an empty 30 lb. 134a refridgerant bottle with a manual valve mounted on it. It has never been opened to atmosphere and I would like to use it as a recovery tank. This finally brings me to my question; why can't I use the accumulator, condenser and compressor already mounted in the car as my recapturing device? If I use my evacuator to pull a vacuum on my recovery tank with a "T" fitting and shut-off valve between the yellow hose from my gauges and the tank (to suck any air from my hose, as well), could I then connect to the high side on the AC system, start the engine and run the compressor to pump the refridgerant into my recovery tank? Won't the accumulator work as an oil seperator, giving me nearly pure refridgerant to my tank? Do I need to worry about over-pressurizing the tank? I don't know what it can handle, but it looks like it could. Most of you AC guys have seen this style of bottle; it looks like a minurature propane tank. Anyone have any insight on this, before I blow myself up?
I have a 2002 Mercury Sable with an AC system that will freeze you right out of the car. It has never leaked and the compressor works great; that is not the issue. The AC has run almost constantly since the car was new and the clutch wore out and burnt itself up. It got so hot that it burnt the paint off the clutch hub and smoked the rubber bushings to charcoal! No problem. I bought a new clutch and replaced it and the AC worked great for another week. Now it has started making a horrible grinding noise which I have found to be coming from the drive pulley bearing. The clutch bolt is tight and the pulley wobbles from side to side. The AC still blows ice cold and makes the most noise when the compressor is not engaged. I think what happened is, when the clutch got so hot, it boiled the grease out of the sealed drive pulley bearing.
After studying the manual, I found that the compressor has to be removed from the vehicle to pull the bearing off with a 3 jawed puller. Since I have to break open the system and remove the compressor to repair it, I searched the Internet and got one heck of a deal on a new compressor package for $198. It includes a brand new compressor, bearing, clutch, low pressure hose with accumulator, orifice tube, o-ring kit and 8 oz. of PAG 46 oil. I couldn't pass it up and already have it here with me ready to install.
Now, I would like to recapture the refridgerant and reuse it. I already have an evacuator and an empty 30 lb. 134a refridgerant bottle with a manual valve mounted on it. It has never been opened to atmosphere and I would like to use it as a recovery tank. This finally brings me to my question; why can't I use the accumulator, condenser and compressor already mounted in the car as my recapturing device? If I use my evacuator to pull a vacuum on my recovery tank with a "T" fitting and shut-off valve between the yellow hose from my gauges and the tank (to suck any air from my hose, as well), could I then connect to the high side on the AC system, start the engine and run the compressor to pump the refridgerant into my recovery tank? Won't the accumulator work as an oil seperator, giving me nearly pure refridgerant to my tank? Do I need to worry about over-pressurizing the tank? I don't know what it can handle, but it looks like it could. Most of you AC guys have seen this style of bottle; it looks like a minurature propane tank. Anyone have any insight on this, before I blow myself up?
Last edited by mtnlovrs; Sep 4, 2011 at 11:16 PM.
problem is you will be putting gas from the high side in the rec. tank. with a recovery machine, it has a built in condenser to condense said gas into a liquid. this allows the refrigerant to fit better in the recovery tank under less pressure.
Thanks, I know that is the proper way of doing it, but my question is: will my idea work? Why or why not? If so, I don't have to pay someone to recapture it for me. I searched the Internet to find the proper way to build my own DIY recovery system, but I don't have the materials or time to build one of those right now. I would like to in the future though. From what I've seen, you basically end up with what you already have under the hood; and if my AC system is working just fine, then there is really no reason why I can't use it to recover the refrigerant - unless I'm missing something very important that a real AC man (that knows what he's doing) may be able to tell me.
sorry just got back on here. if you are stuck on doing it(in the future) you can put the bottle in a bucket of ice for the same effect. anything to condense the gas down. only other issue i would see is getting 100% of the refrigerant out using that method


