6CD/MP3 HU Spec's 05 SC
Out of curiousity, I've opened my HU up and looked. It's really not that bad of a unit, and appears to be quite good in some respects, but there are some places Ford skimped on the design obviously to save cost.
The HU is based around a Philips SAA7706H DSP. Only a subset of its features are used. Ford could have easily hooked up several more external analog as well as digital SPDIF(!!) inputs to it. I wouldn't be surprised if an aftermarket HU uses the same DSP. Ford just crippled the heck out of all the features and did injustice on the output stage--that's why it's perceived to be so crappy!
THe onboard amp badly needs to be 'stiffened' as there is no bulk bypass in the entire radio except for a single 1000uF input filter on the 12V line. There's plenty of room inside the HU to add additional filtering.
There are 2 big components which are probably Ford-special parts:
ST Micro 09375459 <--multiwatt25 package, main amp
ST Micro 09362913 <--multiwatt15 package, not sure what this does yet
These appear to be non-standard part numbers since they do not follow ST's numbering scheme.
Unless I'm wrong, the main amp IC appears to be similar to or is a variant of a ST TDA7561 which means it might be programmable to drive either line output levels *or* 4x20Wrms @14.4V@1% THD (4x30W @2ohms) speaker level outputs. Do you believe 20W? Since this appears to be a Ford-custom part, it could be less. I didn't try measuring yet to confirm.
Unfortunately the programming is done via serial bus by either the DSP or the CPU running the show, so I can't simply make it drive preamp outs instead of speaker level outs. It also has a clip-detection signal, so I'm sure the HU is programmed to limit output power to avoid clipping.
I haven't seen an audiophile opened up, so unless I'm mistaken, both use the same pcb fab but only differing in components stuffed. Mine's missing a bunch of parts that drive an unstuffed sub out connector . The audiophile HU must also add of some kind of board that processes/drives the sub signals.
The sub amp enable line circuit on the main board appears to be intact, a quick poke with a voltmeter shows nothing is driven. It could have been disabled by the HU's CPU firmware.
The CPU appears to be programmable via a JTAG port. ..just need to figure out how to reverse disassemble the thing assuming it's not read-protected.
Any takers?
The HU is based around a Philips SAA7706H DSP. Only a subset of its features are used. Ford could have easily hooked up several more external analog as well as digital SPDIF(!!) inputs to it. I wouldn't be surprised if an aftermarket HU uses the same DSP. Ford just crippled the heck out of all the features and did injustice on the output stage--that's why it's perceived to be so crappy!
THe onboard amp badly needs to be 'stiffened' as there is no bulk bypass in the entire radio except for a single 1000uF input filter on the 12V line. There's plenty of room inside the HU to add additional filtering.
There are 2 big components which are probably Ford-special parts:
ST Micro 09375459 <--multiwatt25 package, main amp
ST Micro 09362913 <--multiwatt15 package, not sure what this does yet
These appear to be non-standard part numbers since they do not follow ST's numbering scheme.
Unless I'm wrong, the main amp IC appears to be similar to or is a variant of a ST TDA7561 which means it might be programmable to drive either line output levels *or* 4x20Wrms @14.4V@1% THD (4x30W @2ohms) speaker level outputs. Do you believe 20W? Since this appears to be a Ford-custom part, it could be less. I didn't try measuring yet to confirm.
Unfortunately the programming is done via serial bus by either the DSP or the CPU running the show, so I can't simply make it drive preamp outs instead of speaker level outs. It also has a clip-detection signal, so I'm sure the HU is programmed to limit output power to avoid clipping.
I haven't seen an audiophile opened up, so unless I'm mistaken, both use the same pcb fab but only differing in components stuffed. Mine's missing a bunch of parts that drive an unstuffed sub out connector . The audiophile HU must also add of some kind of board that processes/drives the sub signals.
The sub amp enable line circuit on the main board appears to be intact, a quick poke with a voltmeter shows nothing is driven. It could have been disabled by the HU's CPU firmware.
The CPU appears to be programmable via a JTAG port. ..just need to figure out how to reverse disassemble the thing assuming it's not read-protected.
Any takers?
If anyone is interested in what the HU looks like inside, I added a couple of pix to my gallery...
https://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?gnum=6379
https://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?gnum=6379
Last edited by dragonman; Aug 18, 2005 at 02:37 PM.
Originally Posted by geokar01
Do you think there is a way to add the audiophile components in a easy fashion? Have your heard the audiophile version? Is it that much better?
I haven't listened to an audiophile system; purportedly it's not bad.
I'm trying to find a spot for a decent 4-channel amp that can't be seen at all--preferably the area under the existing HU or maybe under the shifter in my FX4. But all amps these days are HUGE! :-(


