Josh,
I agree with what you are saying about the measurments. I will even agree with you that the wheels in the pics look like 20's and not 22's.
Where we disagree is what he is actually selling. I think he really is selling 22" replicas. I don't think he is trying to scam anyone saying they are 22's when they are only 20's. Check his feedback. He has 205 positives, and 1 neutral. If he were running bogus auctions, he wouldn't have that kind of feedback.

Let us know what he says. This may mean you have to start saving for 22's...

 

N2TRUX, they are not 22's. no matter what his rep is on ebay, that has absolutely nothing to do with that. he could seriously think they are 22's, and not realize his mistake. Heck, if i knew nothing about these trucks, i would think they were 22's also. Sometimes at shows, people will walk up and say, "wow, he's got 22's" all i do is laugh and let em think that

but there is too much going against it. Have you ever seen teh pics of the 18" HD rim? It looks all squished cuz teh holes are smaller and spokes shorter. If it was a 22" HD rim, the holes would look bigger, and the spokes longer, and it clearly look exactly like all the other HD replica 20's i've seen.

Also, he just told me in that last email that they measured just under 22" for the diameter from outter lip to outter lip, and they have a .5" flange. The 20" HD rims measure roughly 21.5" from outter lip to outter lip, and take off the .5" flange off each side, that leaves you with 20.5" of rim for the tire to fit on. If you get a 22'' tire, you could set the rim inside of it

just too much going against it. I'll check my email now again though, too see if he said anything else.

but i'm tellin ya, i'm right on this one...LoL

 

Ooh well, looks like no 22 inch replica's no time soon. I wonder why this guy would say something like this if he knows they are not 22's. I got all excited for nothing.

 

he emailed me back and changed what he told me earlier. i'm not even gonna bother with him any more I told them if they really are 22's, then send me a pic of a 22" tire mounted on them, or send me to the direction of the company that makes them so i can be sure that they really are 22's

 

I e-mailed this person and the following is my question and his reply:

My e-mail
"Are these really 22" wheels. What proof can you provide me that these are 22' wheels"?

His reply
Yes they are 22" wheels, look at my feedback - 200+ positives can not be
wrong.

Jeff

 

We want the truth! I want 22" rims!

BTW...I think they would be more than they are auctioning for if they were 22's.

 

There is no way to really tell from the pic - Though I do agree with several of the comments about appearance of the spoke length and window size between the spokes - They are 20" wheels. The proportions change significantly from 18" to 20" to 22" etc., and comparing the pics to ones I have on file lead me to think these are 20's.
While this sellers responses may be all positive, I have a hard time believing anyone who sells wheels regularly would provide measurements the way he responded to Harley356 -
"from lip to lip they are right at 9.94", pretty standard .475 rim
flange.
Jeff
Nothings impossible though..... I am going to do some checking on Monday to see if any of the factories are putting out 22” replica’s – back when I made my first inquiry the answer was NO! I can tell from the pics though that the wheels he is showing are coming from a different factory (or at least different mold) than the one I use.

Update on factual 22" Replica's:
Glad to see there is still interest - I am moving forward with the project. First doing 3D renderings & cad diagramming for structural engineering, then will be working on the tooling for the molds. The reason I wanted to see about interest a few weeks ago is the cost of tooling for the molds - for a rough idea anything 20" or larger is about $1,000 per inch, so that will cost $22,000 before we build the first wheel!
I am trying to keep the pricing reasonable - while can't control retail prices, they should sell for no more than $2,500 a set MAX!
btw - I can do 20" replica's for $1,400 a set all day long.

 

I also decided to contact the seller -
I am very interested in these wheels and would pay your "buy it now" price if they are indeed 22" wheels. I would like to see a pic of the wheel with a tire mounted on it so that I can read the tire size on the sidewall, or a pic of the backside of the wheel with the casting stamp showing the 22" nomenclature. Also, most 22" wheels are 22 x 10, not 22 x 9 because of the tire size needed to get the overall height has to wide a section width to fit on a 9" wide wheel.

I'll let you know what he comes back with.

 

I've got a better idea and we can all have 22's and save our money. Lets just go along with the sellers definition of what is 22 So that means we all have 22s - cool!

JL

 

Would work if it weren't for the tires!

 

yeah, then just shave the 0 off the P275/45/R20 and get some hot glue and some black rubber shavings and make a number 2 instead so then the tire would read 22's


but yeah, this would be awsome if you can get 22" HD rims made up Treadwheeler! Again, if you need anybody to test fit a set for a reduced price, i'm right here for ya man LoL!
keep us updated!

 

22'S ARE GREAT.

285/30/22 WITH 2IN LOWERED



305/40/22 WITH 4IN LOWERED

 

dave...you really need to shorten your sig - Put the important stuff only

 

Sorry in advance for the length of this post - thought I would insert the sellers replies. I'm still going to follow-up later this morning - Though I get more skeptical every time this guy replies. Especially when he say's he can get anything stamped on the wheel he wants - BS! Not if you are reputable manufacturer or distributor. Kind like American Racing got slapped hard last year for bringing product in from China (where 75%+ of there wheels come from today) and using boxes that said "Made in America"! The wheel industry is self-policed and there are enough legitimate Manf. & Dist we watch for the scumbags.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wheelindex@aol.com [mailto:Wheelindex@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:48 AM
To: dinsull@americantiredistributors.com
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1872773151


Sorry, can not get a picture right now as they are in one of our warehouses
that is closed for the weekend and is quite a bit away from me - they are
22's as we had them at the SEMA show. Sorry if you need a pic of the
backside casting (which I can get any of our manufacturers to put whatever I
want on the back). They may be 9.5's, I will check Mon. AM -- we have had a
ton of emails about these. For some reason people think it is hard to make
22's ( I do not know why when I saw somebody else that makes a 30!!).
Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: David Insull - Huntersville
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:04 AM
To: 'Wheelindex@aol.com'
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #1872773151


Can you take a pic and send or post of the casting stamp on the backside of the wheel? Niether of us should have to go through the hassle of shipping with a possible return in mind on the front end. Have you looked at the stamping on the backside to confirm 22"? Measuring the diameter from outer lip edge to outer lip edge across the face of the wheel does not indicate true wheel diameter.
I do not question the integrity of your ebay transactions - all very positive responses and I would be comfortable doing business with you.
There just shouldn't be any gray area in the size of a wheel.
You can't use a 305/40-22 on a 9" wide wheel - your description indicates 22x9, that was the other part of my email. A 295 is to big for 9" wheel if you go by the tire makers numbers though I know people do it all the time.

Thanks
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Wheelindex@aol.com [mailto:Wheelindex@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 8:46 AM
To: dinsull@americantiredistributors.com
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1872773151


sorry, do not have a pic with the tire mounted on it. If they are not 22's
and you get them I will take them back - you can look at my feedback and see
that I sell what I advertise - we just got the 22's in a week and a half ago
- I would use a 305/40VR22

Jeff

 

I know this is getting very debatable but i looked at the auction again today and the seller has changed his description to 22x9.5. I want to buy just don't want to be out of $1700 if in fact they are only 20's. Time will tell. Someone get to the bottom of this. I wonder if it is only one set or as many sets as he can sell.