From the reading I've just been doing, if you don't use the Indian or Victory (same stuff) oil, you should use the Castrol that Roadie linked or Spectro Golden 4 20w-40 semi-synthetic, they both meet spec. Before you use anything other than the Indian oil, better ask your dealer about oil as it pertains to warranty coverage. If they say the warranty will be void if you don't use their oil, get something in writing with reasons.

 

Ok, so you believe the M1-10-40 4T spec oil is the way to go.
Will heed your advice.
I believe Victory uses the same oil in a rebranded container as Indian uses, so they must really be committed to their clutch designs.
Now I feel better about what I will use, Thanks again.
Oh....I still like you, by the way. Your advice and wisdom are always welcome.

 

OK, did a LOT of searching and found a few people had actually called Mobil and asked about their M/C oils. All stated that Mobil said "we do not share our additive package information" So, it must be top secret stuff......lol. Like another company could not buy a quart and analyze it.......

 

M1 4T has 12-1300 PPMs ZDDP which is important in any bike that uses the oil for the transmission as well. It works on the shearing effects of the gears in the tranny. When this oil was called MX4 it had 1700 PPMs ZDDP. What it doesn't contain are the super friction modifiers that effect the clutch system. FWIW, not all additives will flash in spectroscopy and the testing can be off by 10% in either direction which means it can be off by 20% at the worst. The person setting up the machine is critical for accurate results.
The Castrol has not always given good results so it would not be on my list of recommended oils. The Golden is okay but compared to the Mobil 4T, it's not really in the game. If it was all you could find, it would work.

 

Yes, Castrol has never been on my radar in any given application. Thank you again.

 

You know, it's a good chance the Indian oil is made by Castrol. Not too many oil companies make a 20w40 semi-synthetic.

 

Nope, it is made by an independent oil company, they make the Victory oil also. I looked it up this morning but forgot the name...............

 

Indian Motor Oil is made by the same company that makes Victory and Polaris motor oils. That would be Tesla Technoproducts out of Dubai, Arabia. At least that's who is listed on the licenses at API as the maker.

 

So, if the original quest was to save money, with the cost of Mobil One you won't be saving much.

 

Except that M1 is a synthetic............That is what I am looking for. I figure I can save 30-35 dollars on the entire change. But really, I am looking for a better oil.

 

The name I read must be the american distributor or the wholesaler of the Dubai product for Polaris.

 

I don't suppose the name of the company could have been York and Boston. That is the importer for the USA. The company shows to be a sole ownership which is odd. The Owners name is M J Sajan and he is out of Portland Oregon per his area code of 971. Sounds like a front company for the Arabs.

 

No, not that name. I'll look it up after my morning coffee.

Looked it up..........they said Lube-Tech. Never heard of them.

 

Lube Tech is short for Lubrication Technologies out of Golden Valley Mn. They are a small blender of their products and they can also package product for private labels. I looked up their API licenses that they hold, nothing for Polaris, Victory or Indian. A news bulletin from Indian says they are getting their oil product from Lube Tech so I assume the product is being made in Dubai, shipped in bulk to Lube Tech and bottled there. Lube Tech doesn't even show a 20w- XX at all in their product list.
FWIW, I chatted with cuz this morning. He changed his oil to the Mobil One T4 and said the transmission shifts slicker than owl snot. Yeah, he's a country boy but don't ever question his machine work on engines. The boy is an absolute genius under the hood. He owns his own speed shop. With any luck at all I'll end up with a sample of this run of M1 oil out of his bike. If I do, I'll PM you the results.

 

That would be great!! An O/A would be good. But the second O/A would be more accurate...huh? There has to be some old oil and crud in some far away places that could foul a real accurate result.
Since Lube Tech doesn't show a 20-40 oil, I am now wondering if it is actually 20-40, or just labeled as such to make users buy it because it is kind of a rare viscosity. Hmmm.