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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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If I ever do get that right
Ha! Get that right? The next thing they'll do is take away hunting rifles. They never "give back" once they've taken away. Just move down here . . .
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Statistics please??

Also, please keep in mind that 99.999999% of the time, a gun does not go boom without someTHING pulling the trigger. Just saying.
FIFY.

My local PD/Sheriff has had a few accidental firings. Drawing a weapon and re-holster sometimes their gear will catch the trigger.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
FIFY.

My local PD/Sheriff has had a few accidental firings. Drawing a weapon and re-holster sometimes their gear will catch the trigger.
Yes and most LEO's use a SERPA retention holster that puts your finger directly in line with the trigger during your draw. The re-holster AD is just slopping gun handling practices all the way around not making sure your holster is clear before re-holstering your weapon.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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I don't like Glocks. I don't trust them. There are more accidental firings from Glocks than any other brand. I carry a Ruger LCP .380. It's very reliable, small, and has a hammer. So, I feel safer with it in my pocket knowing the hammer ain't kocked.
You do realize the LCP is a DAO (double action only) pistol just like a Glock that rely's solely on a heavy trigger pull as it's safety and if there is a round in the chamber the gun is ****ed you have have a live gun bouncing around in your pocket? I owned one and I hated it because anything past 5 yards it's almost useless for a precision shot if you need to take it. Also if I'm going to carry a gun with limited rounds I want one like my 1911 that I can use to beat someone to death if I have to.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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My carry piece is a S&W .380 Bodyguard. Nice little piece. I have many Glocks & like them too!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
FIFY.

My local PD/Sheriff has had a few accidental firings. Drawing a weapon and re-holster sometimes their gear will catch the trigger.
This can happen. But I would still equate this to user error and safe gun handling practices rather than a faulty gun, as he suggested.

I just thought that post was a little over the top in suggesting that Glock's have more accidental firings than any other weapon. Even if I saw stats saying this was true (which I doubt) I would equate it to Glocks being so popular and available. This would be impossible to prove anyway. I'm sure most incidents go unreported. The one's that are reported are those by LEOs. And what is the most common brand used by LEOs? You guessed it! As much as I hate NBC, here is the first source I could find: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41046787/n.../#.UtA2t_RDufs
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dsq3973
You do realize the LCP is a DAO (double action only) pistol just like a Glock that rely's solely on a heavy trigger pull as it's safety and if there is a round in the chamber the gun is ****ed you have have a live gun bouncing around in your pocket? I owned one and I hated it because anything past 5 yards it's almost useless for a precision shot if you need to take it. Also if I'm going to carry a gun with limited rounds I want one like my 1911 that I can use to beat someone to death if I have to.
The hammer on the Ruger LCP is flush with the gun so even if you dropped it on the hammer it would not go off. It's a tiny gun for carrying in your pocket in the summer time when you don't wear many clothes. With more clothing you can hide anything you want. It's for close range, self defense, belly gun, or whatever. Any double action pistol with a heavy trigger pull is hard to shoot accurately. I use it with a pocket holster to protect the trigger from being accidentally pulled while in my pocket and also to disguise the shape. As far as the power, when I put a hundred rounds through it, my hand is sore. I don't want a tiny gun like that with any more kick. In my state, it's legal to carry a holstered gun on your hip without a permit. But, I don't want to do that. It just makes people nervous. If I'm on a trip on my bike, I might do that.

By the way, the only Glock I've ever fired was a 23 40 cal. I believe and it did not have a heavy trigger pull. It was comparable to my Sig Sauer when fired in single action with the hammer kocked. At the range, I was able to drill the target with that Glock, but I just don't think it's a safe pistol to use. We all have our smelly opinions! Ha!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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I don't like Glocks. I don't trust them. There are more accidental firings from Glocks than any other brand.
C0cked and locked 1911 fer the win!

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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I will note a Glock CAN NOT go off by itself. User error and/or poorly designed accessories is NOT Glocks fault. You probably hear more firearm "accidents" associated with Glock, because they are so damn popular in the LE type pistol category.

I own 4 Glocks, have fired 10,000+ rounds out of those guns, and have NEVER had a single round go off without me intending for it to.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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I carried a Glock pistol for the last 20 years of my career as a Police Officer. Never an accidental misfire by me. My Co-Workers not so lucky. lol I now carry a Sig P229 now at my present job. Nice weapon!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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And let's not forget, the Glock 19 started it all. Every LE style pistol is modeled after Glock. Polymer frame, double stack magazines, light weight, double action style with safety-less trigger system...
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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I'm not saying the Glock malfunctions. I'm just saying it's like having a kocked Sig or 1911 in your holster. It's easy to accidentally hit the trigger and fire especially when grabbing it from a holster when you are excited. I was at the Nine Mile Nuclear Power Plant when a deputy was showing off his Glock to a female deputy and shot her in the foot. Yesterday after this discussion started I did a web search and found mention of that very incident. I also found a lot of discussions about the accidental firings of Glocks. I'm old fashioned. I want a hammer so I know it isn't kocked.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Shooting her foot is his own damn fault! He was a damn fool to pull it out to "show off" anyway!!

Do some research.
http://us.glock.com/technology/safe-action
 

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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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I'm not saying the Glock malfunctions. I'm just saying it's like having a kocked Sig or 1911 in your holster. It's easy to accidentally hit the trigger and fire especially when grabbing it from a holster when you are excited. I was at the Nine Mile Nuclear Power Plant when a deputy was showing off his Glock to a female deputy and shot her in the foot. Yesterday after this discussion started I did a web search and found mention of that very incident. I also found a lot of discussions about the accidental firings of Glocks. I'm old fashioned. I want a hammer so I know it isn't kocked.
Seriously!?!?! What are you going to do if you actually need to deploy the gun?

It's a very simple concept. Keep your damn bugger hook away/off the bang switch and there won't be a problem. Your finger should be no where near or on the trigger during the draw stroke if you're drawing the gun out of the holster properly. I shoot competitions with a first shot on target time of around 1.25-1.5 seconds using the 1911 or Glock 17 and the gun does not go off until I have it on target. That time is shooting from surrender drawing out of a retention holster which includes taking the safety off on the 1911 and getting my finger on the trigger from the index point on the gun which is the ejection port.

Learn proper safe gun handling techniques including checking the chamber each and every time you pick up a gun you should not have an issue unless there is something mechanically wrong with the gun.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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If I need to fire my P226 and I don't have time to kock it manually, I will fire it quickly in double action. After that it's kocked and fires single action with a light trigger pull. The accuracy of the first shot will be less than the follow up shots, but that is my preference to carrying a light trigger pull double action Glock with no visible hammer.
 
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