Troy Davis to be executed tonight

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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The only reason I can think of making the death penalty more expensive is either because of all the legal fees and red tape they have to cross before it's finally over, or because they're counting on them not living throughout the full life sentence. Otherwise I'd think it'd cost a lot more to keep them in prison for life just because of the cost to feed that person, etc.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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No they haven't. The man that was found guilty of murdering
Yes they have. so you think once the sentences is given the pain is over?
every appeal, every time a motion is filed, everytime someone is in the paper or on tv, is drags up emotion. constant fear that the new attorney finds a loop hole and this guy walks or gets another day in court. had he gotten life he would be just another guy serving his sentence instead of a poster boy for those against the death penalty. this post proves it 22 years later and he is still getting attention.

sorry frank, been there done that, i know 2 POS sitting in Huntsville state prison for killing a family member, they have 32 years to go on a life sentence, no appeals, no newspaper article, no new attorneys, no chance that they get out of it, over and done.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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The appeals process is a farce.

20 plus years to finish sentencing a guy that was declared guilty by a jury is miscarriage of justice. To his dying moment he declared he didn't have a link to the gun or the bullet that killed the officer... talk about delusional!!!

Drugs, childhood trauma, mental state or diminished capabilities, nothing should play into the release of a person that takes another person's life.

In my opinion, the death penalty is not used enough. If it was good enough for the victim, it's good enough for the killer.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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I actually think that life without parole in a place like the Colorado Supermax would be worse than death; hence, I think that might be a more-appropriate punishment. Such a person has the opportunity, for several thousand days in a row, to think about what they did...alone in their cell 23 hours a day with an hour of "exercise" in what amounts to a dog run (alone, of course).
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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I actually think that life without parole in a place like the Colorado Supermax would be worse than death; hence, I think that might be a more-appropriate punishment. Such a person has the opportunity, for several thousand days in a row, to think about what they did...alone in their cell 23 hours a day with an hour of "exercise" in what amounts to a dog run (alone, of course).
A lot more costly to the taxpayers than death..........
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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If you are going to kill them, it doesn't matter how you kill them.

And sitting them around for 20 years eating tax money is a joke IMO.
5-10 years should be all the waiting that should be done.
Thats more than enough time to find any new evidence.

Guns and ammo are much cheaper and a single 9MM round would do the job every time.
Shoot japan still hangs people.

http://www.japansociety.org/a_secret_theater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...apan#Execution
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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I'm in favor of the death penalty because I feel it is a deterrant.

IMO, if it was implemented more swiftly and more often, it would deter even more murders. That is an important consideration for me.

As for the appeals process, I feel it is necessary, but it has become way too long and costly.

Put the burden of enforcement of the death penalty on the governors. They can commute the sentence or implement it. If the governors act improperly (executing someone for which there is a legitimate doubt or not executing someone who is clearly guilty), the governor will be held accountable at the ballot box.
 

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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
No they haven't. The man that was found guilty of murdering their son has just been on death row that long because of the incessant appeals process.

34 witnesses saw Mr. Davis shoot Officer MacPhail. Three of which were U.S. Airmen sitting in the Burger King drive thru. The jury was composed of 7 blacks, 5 whites.

Why should taxpayers be forced to pay 40-55K per year to keep this guy alive? Not to mention, this isn't the only crime he was guilty of.

Well I think they need more than witnesses accounts for the death penalty. I think they should have more comprehensive DNA testing and ballistics.


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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Judge Mathis leaves out many facts in his rant.

His 'opinion' is noted.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JForestZ34
Well I think they need more than witnesses accounts for the death penalty. I think they should have more comprehensive DNA testing and ballistics.


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Originally Posted by Frank S
Judge Mathis leaves out many facts in his rant.

His 'opinion' is noted.

I agree with the both of you.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 04:22 AM
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Putting aside the pros/cons of the death penalty this guy killed a cop!! Killing someone is not the best way to endeer yourself to law enforcement but a cop!!!! I am surprised the guy even lasted in jail without being got at. Other than that he got what he deserved, he went through due process etc & was still killed! It should be a deterant to others but somehow I am not sure anymore.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JForestZ34
Well I think they need more than witnesses accounts for the death penalty. I think they should have more comprehensive DNA testing and ballistics.


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34 People testified as witnesses against him. I don't know the exact number but many people in the witness list knew who Troy Davis was, or knew him personally. Out of those 34, 7 have recanted portions of their testimony. Of those 7, 3 were close friends of Troy Davis and their recanted testimony still implicated Troy Davis. The only 2 somewhat credible recants of testimony were blocked from testifying at an appeals hearing. Oh, by the way, they were blocked from testifying by Troy Davis himself. On another note, all witnesses against Troy Davis were African-American, so racial bias isn't an issue.

Hard evidence you say, Troy Davis was involved in 2 different shootings that night. The bullet casings from both shootings were matched.

DNA testing? It was in its infancy at the time, and wouldn't have even likely been considered if there was available evidence to DNA test. But DNA testing is currently available, but what evidence do you want to test? You need the killers DNA on evidence to test. Since the murderer wasn't injured, there is no blood to test. Hair samples wouldn't have likely been saved as the victim, the perpatrator, and the dozens of witnesses had pretty similar hair color.

Real life isn't CSI, there really isn't much evidence to gather in a case like this. Fortunately we had 34 people come forward to identify, without question, who the shooter was.

It can't be more of an open and shut case than that, imo.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent47
Putting aside the pros/cons of the death penalty this guy killed a cop!! Killing someone is not the best way to endeer yourself to law enforcement but a cop!!!! I am surprised the guy even lasted in jail without being got at. Other than that he got what he deserved, he went through due process etc & was still killed! It should be a deterant to others but somehow I am not sure anymore.

From what I understand of the prison life, if you kill a cop your almost treated like a king by fellow inmates. Now the CO's might look at it differently. But fellow inmates give you ALOT of respect for doing that.


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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JForestZ34
From what I understand of the prison life, if you kill a cop your almost treated like a king by fellow inmates. Now the CO's might look at it differently. But fellow inmates give you ALOT of respect for doing that.


James
That's what I thought. Not only that but I know I'm going to hear it for saying this but I hate when people put other people on a pedal stool. IMO I don't care if your a cop, politician, pastor or president your still a human. I hear people say this all the time. He's a pastor so there's no way in the world he touched those lil boys, COME ON. I'm not siding with or against Troy I just created the thread so we all could share some light on it. I hate that he killed someone (if he did indeed do it) to me it doesnt matter if he was a cop no one should have there life taking away by another human being.
 
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