Wonder if this could kill GM
That's not what the link states, all previous express written warranties are honored(i.e. 3yr/36K).
The claims in question fall outside 'express written'.
It would be like filing bankruptcy and the electric company coming after you for an unpaid bill from four years ago.
The claims in question fall outside 'express written'.
It would be like filing bankruptcy and the electric company coming after you for an unpaid bill from four years ago.
Please take my advice here, you do NOT want a G6. I work for a chevy dealer and I am GM ASE certified, I am telling you for a FACT the G6 will spend more time in the dealership then you will have it in your driveway. And AS SOON AS your warranty expires, you will replace: outer tie rod ends, front and rear rotors, front wheel bearings, and front struts. They are nice cars, don't get me wrong. But they are very unreliable cars, the radio has a lot of problems (it is tied into the vehicles control systems so it cannot be removed), the interior pieces are cheap, my buddy had to have the a/c vents replaced 3x, the paint comes off of the buttons, radio display stops working, and the modules in the vehicle often loose their programming. These vehicles are also prone to chewing tires, you average less than 24k on a set of tires. For fear of rambling or repeating myself, please take my advice here and trust me enough to know I'm not throwing a b.s. biased opinion at you. I have also been a service advisor and I wrote 100's of customer and used G6 repair orders, they are all the same..... junk. I'm sorry to give you all this bad news but I want to help you not go through what so many of my customers have had to endure.
mikeyss,, do you have any friends that work at ford dealerships? what are they doing all day?
honestly i get the thing that some people like ford like they like their favorite football team, but thru my eyes they all have similar size service department and they all have issues and all the have been counters
i would guess that if you worked for a ford dealer, you would have a list of things that you see go wrong with fords.
honestly i get the thing that some people like ford like they like their favorite football team, but thru my eyes they all have similar size service department and they all have issues and all the have been counters
i would guess that if you worked for a ford dealer, you would have a list of things that you see go wrong with fords.
My wife at the time, decided she wanted a new 1976 Chevy Monza. It was a cute little car, 4 banger with a 5 speed manual. I had wire wheels put on it and wide tires right after we took delivery. In the next 6000 miles, the head gasket blew 5 times with the engine ingesting all of the coolant. The last time I drove it into the dealership, the engine locked up as I drove in. In the first year of ownership, the dealer had the car 8 1/2 months waiting for parts. The last time we went to pick it up, the service manager said never bring it back because they were not going to work on it again. They brought it out to us on the front end of a wrecker as the battery was dead. You couldn't see out of the glass because it was so dirty. The white leather seats were covered in grease. Three things happened that day. I never went back to Smith Chevrolet in San Antonio, It was the last GM product I would ever buy, the car got cleaned as soon as we left the dealership, I bought her a new Cougar. If GM folded tomorrow, I'd get drunk in celebrating....and I don't drink. GM management is the lowest form off life as far as I'm concerned. No wonder my bud Ed Whitacre left running the place. I can assure you he would not have put up with that BS.
I've owned several GM cars I've had 4 Camaros and several other GM products including I now have a GM POS 3500 Savana and my wife has an 03 Saturn we bought new thats actually been a great car. I'm done with them from now on especially the Van if I ever buy another van its Ford only. The Van I have now is absolute crap in comparison to the Fords I've had.
Though I would rather buy American rather than foreign any day (and therefore want as many domestic choices as possible), if anything does them in, it will be pushiness of their salesmen.
Driving through the Chuck Hutton lot in Memphis a few years back, a literal "pack" of salesmen followed my '95 XL truck up and down FIVE aisles before I found the quickest exit and high-tailed it outta there.
It could be argued they were trying to gain a sale or be friendly, but there were around 8 salesmen and 1 me--I worried they were gonna mob my poor baby, push her over, set her on fire and force me to leave with an extended cab Z71.
And the Bill Heard lot in Collierville, TN, had a guardshack--you had to get a card/slip before they would even let you leave!
Driving through the Chuck Hutton lot in Memphis a few years back, a literal "pack" of salesmen followed my '95 XL truck up and down FIVE aisles before I found the quickest exit and high-tailed it outta there.
It could be argued they were trying to gain a sale or be friendly, but there were around 8 salesmen and 1 me--I worried they were gonna mob my poor baby, push her over, set her on fire and force me to leave with an extended cab Z71.
And the Bill Heard lot in Collierville, TN, had a guardshack--you had to get a card/slip before they would even let you leave!
@mikeyss
You have to also understand that some people are very hard on vehicles. Ive had my truck for over one hundred thousand miles and virtually no repairs. Every vehicle my girlfriend has doesn't last. She drives 'em hard and doesn't do maintenance. You can give somebody like that a vehicle that is considered tough and it will still have things break. JMO
You have to also understand that some people are very hard on vehicles. Ive had my truck for over one hundred thousand miles and virtually no repairs. Every vehicle my girlfriend has doesn't last. She drives 'em hard and doesn't do maintenance. You can give somebody like that a vehicle that is considered tough and it will still have things break. JMO
@Alex, I do understand that people drive their vehicles differently, but no matter how you drive your vehicle is not going to cause modules to loose their programming, as ALL GM cars and truck often do. Also the driver can't really cause the oil pan gasket to leak, the timing cover to leak, or the rear main seals to leak.
@BrotherDave, I have a cousin that is a Ford tech. And yes, Ford does have their quirks too, but nowhere new the problems GM cars and trucks are having. His job security is the 6.0, 7.3 diesels that come into his shop frequently. Also he deals with a bunch of spark plug blowouts from the 5.4's. So, this is why I felt warranted in my long post bashing the G6. I also was responsible for used car re-con, and I sent more GM vehicles back to auction than I ever did a Ford. I sent a ton of Dodge cars back as well, especially the dodge caliper!
@BrotherDave, I have a cousin that is a Ford tech. And yes, Ford does have their quirks too, but nowhere new the problems GM cars and trucks are having. His job security is the 6.0, 7.3 diesels that come into his shop frequently. Also he deals with a bunch of spark plug blowouts from the 5.4's. So, this is why I felt warranted in my long post bashing the G6. I also was responsible for used car re-con, and I sent more GM vehicles back to auction than I ever did a Ford. I sent a ton of Dodge cars back as well, especially the dodge caliper!
I worked for GM dealers for many, many years. All I drove were GM vehicles. After seeing the garbage that GM built for many years (it wasn't always that way) and working on my own vehicles all the time (they only had a 12/12 warranty back then) I finally had a belly full, said goodby to GM and never looked back. Of the 6 Ford products I've had since then (5 of them new) I have had virtually NO problems at all. Can't say that about the GM's I drove!
Wish someone had warned me!
I had a 3yr lease on a G6 V6 prior to buying this F150. That POS had a ton of problems. While pulling out of the dealership, trim pieces fell off and both the LH and RH window switch bezels were broken. Turned around and had everything swapped from a different car while we waited. Should've backed out of the deal right there! After 3k miles, oil was spraying from somewhere under the intake manifold, completely covering the transaxle and pouring out of the starter. After 5k miles, headgasket #1 needed replacement. Other one blew a month later. Had cooling system leaks. Front and rear brakes had to be replaced at 12k miles. The heated driver's seat quit working after a year. The brake light switch was messed up inside, so the brake lights were always on. Didn't know about that until I tried to use the cruise control and it didn't work and took it in for service. The Hankook tires were garbage from the beginning and scary in the rain after only 10k miles. Replaced tires with Continental ExtremeContact DWS and the car was actually fun to drive for the first time. Those still looked and performed like new when I turned the car in w/36k miles. After the car was gone, my sister in law told me she had non-stop problems with her G6 GT and thats why she got rid of hers.
I took good care of the car and it looked like new inside and out when returned. All of the maintenance was done on time by the dealership instead of myself because I was afraid they would use any excuse to refuse warranty coverage...and it was there all the time.
Now my wife's '09 G8 GT has been great, but it is the last GM product we'll ever have. It was made in Australia though, so it doesn't really count.
Though I would rather buy American rather than foreign any day (and therefore want as many domestic choices as possible), if anything does them in, it will be pushiness of their salesmen.
Driving through the Chuck Hutton lot in Memphis a few years back, a literal "pack" of salesmen followed my '95 XL truck up and down FIVE aisles before I found the quickest exit and high-tailed it outta there.
It could be argued they were trying to gain a sale or be friendly, but there were around 8 salesmen and 1 me--I worried they were gonna mob my poor baby, push her over, set her on fire and force me to leave with an extended cab Z71.
And the Bill Heard lot in Collierville, TN, had a guardshack--you had to get a card/slip before they would even let you leave!
Driving through the Chuck Hutton lot in Memphis a few years back, a literal "pack" of salesmen followed my '95 XL truck up and down FIVE aisles before I found the quickest exit and high-tailed it outta there.
It could be argued they were trying to gain a sale or be friendly, but there were around 8 salesmen and 1 me--I worried they were gonna mob my poor baby, push her over, set her on fire and force me to leave with an extended cab Z71.
And the Bill Heard lot in Collierville, TN, had a guardshack--you had to get a card/slip before they would even let you leave!
Ah, that would be the model where in order to remove one of the spark plugs (forget which one), you literally had to pull the engine...there was not enough clearance to the side of the engine compartment to unscrew that plug all the way. (They lowered the engine into the car with the plugs in, on the assembly line.)
I used to have an '80 Monza with the V6 (Buick) engine; it's the car that I first learned how to replace a clutch assembly in (two times). As I've owned cars and trucks since then (all but one Fords), I sometimes ponder that I actually got to experience the vintage of poor-quality cars that allowed the Japanese to assault the US market the first time around, as it was around 1980 that the US carmakers hit rock bottom on their quality and Mount Everest on their arrogance.
I used to have an '80 Monza with the V6 (Buick) engine; it's the car that I first learned how to replace a clutch assembly in (two times). As I've owned cars and trucks since then (all but one Fords), I sometimes ponder that I actually got to experience the vintage of poor-quality cars that allowed the Japanese to assault the US market the first time around, as it was around 1980 that the US carmakers hit rock bottom on their quality and Mount Everest on their arrogance.
Thanks @Alex, I didn't mean to sound crappy about anything, its just as a former service advisor for a general repair shop, a hyundai dealer, and a mazda dealer, as well as being a current certified GM mechanic, I've written 1000's of repair orders. I should have said that in my original response. Sorry about that.
@Mike FX4, I'm sorry I wasn't around 3 years ago, I'd written the same response for you. I forgot the dreaded window switches, it seems every part of that car is problematic and will break. My buddy bought a G6 the year before I knew how bad of a car they were, and he toasted his 3.5 V6 by just driving it normal. I'm glad your G8 is treating you well, that is one nice car and I can't say 1 bad thing about them. I drove a few before pontiac went under, unfortunately I never got to drive the GXP model.
@Mike FX4, I'm sorry I wasn't around 3 years ago, I'd written the same response for you. I forgot the dreaded window switches, it seems every part of that car is problematic and will break. My buddy bought a G6 the year before I knew how bad of a car they were, and he toasted his 3.5 V6 by just driving it normal. I'm glad your G8 is treating you well, that is one nice car and I can't say 1 bad thing about them. I drove a few before pontiac went under, unfortunately I never got to drive the GXP model.
My stepdaughter bought a G6 a few years ago, and hers had that goofy multi-panel sunroof. They never could get it to stop rattling and leaking. Her ex got it in the divorce, I think in hindsight that was a GOOD thing!
Just for giggles I grabbed some leftover parts that were replaced through modding, the intake snorkel and a few other parts said, "Made in Canada" and I know I've seen "Hecho en Mexico" on other stuff. Ford trucks are only assembled in USA, just like the many Toyota and other "import" vehicles that are assembled in the USA. 

I realize that not every single component of every F-150 is manufactured, fabricated and assembled in the U.S., as my friend has the toughest d*** Ford I've ever seen (88 Custom 4x4 shortbed) and it has "Ford of Canada" stickered all over it.
Personally, I've got a Dearborn Ford, so maybe I'm more proud of mine than need be, but Ford is an American auto maker. If we DID start manufacturing, fabricating AND assembling in the USA, think about how many jobs would be created, and a product proudly stamped MADE IN AMERICA makes me happy every time. It's not about hating other countries or their products, as much as about embracing everything THIS country was and can be again.







