Anybody can be army it does not take a rocket scientist to lay in a ditch and shoot at some one else in the other ditch. Now in the navy you must use your head always or your dead. planes landing/taking off helo's same thing, engine room 140 plus degrees 12 hrs shift and a box lunch. Guns going off anywhere's from a 3" 50 on up if you get caught outside when one goes off your deaf at the least. Missles/ risk of fire/long deployments= bordem/ tha list goes on and on... And you can be seal team 6 in the navy....

 

UHHHHH....I know alot of FMF Corpsmen, SEALS, EOD, DIVERS, SARC Corpsmen, IA Sailors and Seabees that would have to disagree with that un educated statement.

I was in the Navy....HN (my last name) Hospital Corpsman.

There is two parts to the Navy....The Green side (the best side ) and the blue side (the ship Navy)

Anyone who tells you that a Sailor cannot be an Infantry man then ill give you the names of a few guys your more then welcome to contact.

And how could I forget our SWCC forces

 

Fixed. People need to not talk about things they dont know about

 

For your viewing pleasure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raGluroowso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFm_g...eature=related

How bout some SWCC guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Bctymq4bE

EOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kTViuU3cRw

And a little story. from WWII

In August of 1942, the first major USMC assault landings against the Japanese Empire occurred in the Solomon Islands, Pacific. The island chosen for the invasion was Guadalcanal.

As they moved inland, four Marines were walking point into the jungle. Advancing into an open area without cover, they came under heavy fire from the entrenched Japanese. All four Marines were wounded but managed to crawl into a shell crater, about fifty yards from where they had emerged from the jungle.

A Hospital Corpsman ran from cover into the crater with the wounded Marines, and ran back to cover, under fire. Having dressed the wounds of the Marine, he sprinted back for another, only this time he was hit. Not stopping to dress his own wounds, he carried the second Marine to cover receiving a second wound. After giving aid to the Marine, the Corpsman was hit for a third time going into the crater. Staggering toward the treeline with the third Marine, he was again struck by enemy fire.

When the third Marine's wounds were dressed, the Corpsman started after the last Marine in the crater. The Corpsman still had not stopped to care for his own wounds. In a final valiant effort, he stumbled toward the crater, where he was brought down by concentrated enemy machine gun fire. He lunged forward into the crater falling across the fourth Marine, finally giving up his life.

Reaching up to his own bleeding wounds, the Marine wrote on the back of the Corpsman's bullet riddled shirt,

"WHERE ANGELS AND MARINES FEAR TO TREAD, THERE YOU'LL FIND A CORPSMAN DEAD."


This was that dying Marine's final tribute to his shipmate's supreme sacrifice in fulfilling his oath,

So before everyone says the Navy is a bunch of gay guys on a ship for 9 months and not in danger and not an Infantry man they need to do a little research. Or sign up for green side Navy and go see for yourself

 

In the Army, all the stripes are the same color.
The Navy has something called 'Gold Rating' that has always intrigued me.

They have Gold stripes and Red stripes.
If you stay out of trouble you wear Gold and if not you have to wear Red.
I also heard it takes twelve good years to get Gold back if you lose it.

Is this true?
Also what is the typical ratio of Gold sailors to Red sailors?
Is it 50/50 or only a few Red.

I see a butt'load of red stripes in the Norfolk area.

 

If you have 12 years of good conduct service with no captains mast or DRBs then you will have gold Chevrons and or rockers if your a Chief as well as your hash marks will be gold. As far as I know you can never have a captains mast or DRB. I dont think if you get one when your a younger sailor that you will be eligible after 12 years like if you got one in your 3rd year in I dont think your eligible come year 15 but I could be wrong on that I never actually looked into it.

MOST Chiefs I have seen wear gold. I have seen very very few Chiefs wearing red and I would be whilling to bet the ones that are wearing red are 8-11 year chiefs not yet eligible to wear gold. Chances are if you have a Captians mast or DRB in your record in todays Navy, you'll never make CPO. And unless your in a high demand rate it would be hard to be selected as a First Class.
They are trying to weed alot of people out with the new PTS system and theyre looking at any reason to make you get out early.

 

If you actually thought I meant a sailor wouldn't go to a battlefield, then I guess you over thought my statement. The only people that I've seen on the battle field are SWCC, and that's it. If you call the place where I'm at a combat zone like the Navy guys do, then yes, Navy see's a battlefield.

Once again this was a brief statement, I focused on the Army more due to being more biased and I just hate the way the Navy operates. EOD is also a MOS in the Army.

I have a cousin who is in the Navy, never seen Iraq or Afghanistan.

On the base I'm on, don't even know how to properly hold a M16.

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I'm not trying to debate why the Army is better than the Navy or why the Navy is better than the Army. Because that's not what the OP asked for.

 

SWCC are the only ones youve seen on a battlefield? lol SEALS see alot more battle then SWCC's do.

Im just saying don't degrade the Navy just from the ones you've seen on your base. It is true that most rates in the Navy will never see the desert or a battlefield. But there are alot of Sailors that do see the battlefield. Where ever there is a Marine infantry, Marine Recon, SEAL team or any Special Forces operation in the Navy or Marine Corps, there is a Navy Corpsman attached to they're team to act as another shooter/the go to guy if someone gets injured "Doc"

 

Just because I said I've only seen SWCC doesn't imply SEALs don't see combat, just because I've only seen a SF element doesn't mean Delta Boys don't see combat.

I'm not even degrading, I'm just saying what I've seen and have been told by people that are in the Navy. Obviously a career in the medical or EOD field, they will see combat. Just like in every other branch, there are career fields where you won't see combat even if you are in Iraq or Afghanistan. All I was stating was in the Navy you have less of a chance of going to the battlefield, unless you request for it like a few of these Navy people did, but they got shafted and sent here.

 

haha you guys are funny. I havent decided what job Im going to do yet. Im going to MEPs mid next week to take my ASVAB and physical, so ill find out what jobs are available and how long each one takes to be shipped out. I would rather wait for a good job, then leave ASAP for something I would want to change in the 18 month period they allow you to change jobs. Either way, im so effin stoked to get out of this ****ing town. Ive been here for just about 22 years, and I need to get out and experience LIFE and get a mo fuhkin CAREER goin.

 

I don't think the military lets you experience life, it sure does make you get your act together. I went from living at home and drinking daily and taking my drunk naps at work to wanting to join the military to get out of the house. As of right now, I'm pretty set on being a lifer. I like deploying, and I like training soldiers. But, recently I do miss back home in California. Get ready to be told when you can eat, sleep, and ****. Some people don't like it, I didn't care, I had my mind set on becoming an NCO and fast tracking.

Back in the states, we're only given 120mi radius no pass paperwork, so if I went out of the 120mi's, I'd have to put in paperwork requesting to do so. The beach is 137mi's, and let them catch you, you could get an Art 15. I got in trouble because I went 127mi's on a Monday to go to a concert, juts had to write a RBI (essay) though.

What do you want to do if you did your time and got out? I picked MP because I thought I'd want to be a cop when I did my 5 years, turns out I don't. But, I won't be changing my MOS unless I go Warrant or Officer. Do you have ANY college? The Army has green to gold program, just gotta be an E-4 and you go to college, once you do your college you get commissioned to be an officer, it's more than that, I just don't know much about it. I'm pretty sure the Navy has it as well.

 

I have like 3 units of college. Pretty much nothing. Im ok with being out of civilization for 5 years to travel the world on a ship. Ill be 27-28 when im done.

 

Sounds good man, remember you get to go to college for free while you're in (minus books) and when you get out, you get your GI Bill.

 

My only bit of advice: When/If you sign up at MEPS, DO NOT sign up with your job being "OPEN GENERAL" no matter what the guy at MEPS tells you. I have seen way too many Airman get royally screwed over due to their recruiter or the people at MEPS lying to them and they get placed into my career field (USAF Security Forces) or some other crappy job they have no interest in and hate life. Make sure you get the job YOU want before you sign up at MEPS, not what the Navy randomly picks for you when you graduate basic training.

Good luck with your decision. I can't comment on the Navy, but I can't really complain about how the Air Force has treated me and my wife. Steady paycheck and medical coverage for both of us. The only complaint my wife would probably have is that I have been deployed 3+ years total out of our 7 year marraige. Most of that in the first 4 years of being together. 6 deployments to the sandbox and 1 to Africa. I don't have to go again until Sept 2012 unless WW3 breaks out

 

You could do what i do.. energy audits for the Navy and Air Force. I spent 6 weeks all together at Peark Harbor and Barking Sands PMR, two weeks at Kadena in Okinawa, two weeks at Sasebo, Japan and countless other weeks in Detroit, California (Cornado), and some other not so great places. It's not exciting, but it keeps me employed and my travel calendar filled..

Nah, you guys who serve and protect us are hands down some hard working guys. Thanks to all of you who protect us.