Pastor Terry Jones burning the quran....
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No I just read. The words are there for everyone to use.
Just takes having an open mind, and not having ( or letting ) a background or belief stand in the way of logic and reason with what you are reading.
If you have an open mind, you can know what questions to ask about a topic.
Just takes having an open mind, and not having ( or letting ) a background or belief stand in the way of logic and reason with what you are reading.
If you have an open mind, you can know what questions to ask about a topic.
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Might want to check a history book and post some kind of fact, saying the same thing a 2nd time does not explain it.
The pope ~ 1000 AD is the one that called the Crusades to take the Holy Land / Jerusalem from the people that were there ( pope claimed it belonged to them "rightfully" ).
Crusaders defeated two main Turkish forces at Dorylaeum and Antioch and then they marched to Jerusalem, and massacred the people there.
So now how did the Turkish Muslims instigate the Crusades by getting attacked by a Christian army ?
With this logic, if someone sucker punches you from behind, you started the fight....
The pope ~ 1000 AD is the one that called the Crusades to take the Holy Land / Jerusalem from the people that were there ( pope claimed it belonged to them "rightfully" ).
Crusaders defeated two main Turkish forces at Dorylaeum and Antioch and then they marched to Jerusalem, and massacred the people there.
So now how did the Turkish Muslims instigate the Crusades by getting attacked by a Christian army ?
With this logic, if someone sucker punches you from behind, you started the fight....
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We can't cherry-pick who has rights and who does not. I would never like to see a copy of the Bible burned, but it would be a protected act.
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I knew the basic facts on the topic, and went and did 3 source fact checking on the basics and in the process got details in the supporting material.
This is an attempt to say the same thing a 3rd time.
Remember Common History Books
I get the hint that the "liberal teachers/textbooks" comment means you want me to use a non fact checked history source, which I will not do.
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Re-read the post:
The simple fact is, there are people who claim to follow a religion who think their "god" is not powerful enough to "defend" him/her/it (take your pick) self. They see it as their "calling" to act on his/her/its (take your pick) behalf.
The nutcase Terry Jones is one of these. He should be locked up. The fanatics who commit murder over some perceived insult to their "sacred book" are more of the same.
Intolerance is NOT religion! It is a perversion.
I'm going to agree with Stealth here, but I'll go a bit further - they're all perverted.
- Jack
The nutcase Terry Jones is one of these. He should be locked up. The fanatics who commit murder over some perceived insult to their "sacred book" are more of the same.
Intolerance is NOT religion! It is a perversion.
I'm going to agree with Stealth here, but I'll go a bit further - they're all perverted.
- Jack
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You're missing part of J&J's post, particularly the part where he mentions Jones should be locked up. Hard for me to drag up quotes on the mobile version of the site. :o
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Also added the reference to the pro form at the end, just to clarify how it does not say what Frank S's post indicates it does.
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So you are saying he should be placed in an asylum for burning a book?
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So-so semantics. Insane asylum and locked up mean the same thing to most people when the subject is regarding nutcases.
I can see the correlation, though I've already said my speak on the topic.
I can see the correlation, though I've already said my speak on the topic.
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Frank made up his own reason, and applied it to Jack.
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Maybe Jack will enlighten us as to his intentions for someone exercising their right to free speech.
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My record on the subject of "Free Speech" is clear. All you have to do is review my past posts on this issue. I've even said, "The First Amendment trumps all others."
Now please, the Supreme Court has wrestled with this issue over and over again. Yes, you have the freedom to express your opinion, as long as it does not harm others.
Listening to you, it sounds like you are suddenly advocating total freedom: No problem with Koran burnings, no problem with Bible burnings, no problem with Cross burnings, no problem with racial epithets, no problem with child pornography, and so on and so on. Yes, I know you did not say these things, just as I did not say the things you have ascribed to me.
Now, please - this sophomoric diatribe is getting most tedious. I know you are trying to catch me in a contradiction, but there is none. I strongly support free speech, unless it infringes on the rights, freedoms, or closely held beliefs of other members of our World society. When it goes that far, discretion is necessary. Any other opinion is uncivilized.
And, to continue this discussion is pointless and childish.
- Jack