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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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Libyan No Fly Zone

Several politicians are touting a No Fly Zone to help the resistance in Libya.

Are there advantages and disadvantages of such an endeavor.

1. Should it be done?
2. Should it be solely the US or should it be UN supported?
3. Will it be considered a declaration of war by any of the nations that participate or will it matter?
4. Will it be limited to a no fly zone, or should there also be jamming of radio stations and radar installations?
5. Should the US officially recognize the insurgent government in Benghazi?

I'm sure some of you have more questions to add.

Let's not turn this into a Liberal/Conservative flame fest. Surely there can be opinion without name calling.

(Blue, I know you are looking at this and shaking your head expecting no good can come of it.)
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Let them settle their own differences. Time has shown they do things different than other cultures. We can't continue being the World's police.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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I say the united nations not just the U.S. needs to level the playing field. If that moron had been removed 20 years ago this would not be happening now......
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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I'll just say this: To enforce a no-fly zone, the "enforcers" will have to take down the Libyan air defense system. It's my understanding that a US carrier is standing by to possibly do just that if the decision to do so is made.

In my feeble opinion, any attack on a sovereign nation would be considered by that nation as an act of war.

Should we engage in yet another war? Personally, I'd rather not see us do that, especially unilaterally. And, if the UN supported such an action, how much would we be contributing? In my opinion, if past experience is any guide, we'd be seen as the instigator and I doubt any good will would come our way as a result.

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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Let them settle their own differences. Time has shown they do things different than other cultures. We can't continue being the World's police.
X2

We should be winding down where we already are and be out of the ME by the end of this year. Of course, that's not going to happen as long as we keep electing internationalists as president and we continue to rely on foreign oil.

One can only dream.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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We don't have the resources, both financially and militarily, to be the worlds police anymore. Its time for other nations to step up. The gravy train of having the United States take care of all the worlds problems needs to be over.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Oh great! Here we go with another libtard gimmie-gimmie, the U.S. is all wrong bla bla bla! Boo Hoo Boo Hoo!















Sorry John I couldn't help myself!




They hate us now and they will hate us when things are settled. If we go in we are the agressors, on the other hand if we stay out then we are heartless in the eyes of others.

Freedom is always much sweeter when it is earned and has a better chance of lasting. If we/USA/UN goes in there and "liberates" them, then Lybia will only revert back to a simular form of government like they have now. It really takes about a generation for a country to re-make it's self. So there is no quick fix.

On the humanitarian side, yes we should, but we have sat back up till now, so it would be a sure thing that some radical poobah would claim our motives are suspect. Tuff call.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Let them settle their own differences. Time has shown they do things different than other cultures. We can't continue being the World's police.
x3. Great post, Stealth. Enuff said.

Originally Posted by buckdropper
I say the united nations not just the U.S. needs to level the playing field. If that moron had been removed 20 years ago this would not be happening now......
Great post Buck, does the UN do anything? Someone said it stood for United Nothing...
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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Payback's hell Jim!!!!!

Good thoughtful statements by all, apparently tons of common ground on this point. thanks for playing!

Guess I'll consider myself lucky and not post that follow up on Wisc.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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the middle east would be a good place to get rid of all the nucs that the russians told obama to get rid of. detonating them there would be better than burying them in nevada unless it was harry rieds back yard.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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the middle east would be a good place to get rid of all the nucs that the russians told obama to get rid of. detonating them there would be better than burying them in nevada unless it was harry rieds back yard.

In a madrasa, somewhere in the Middle East....

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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Let them settle their own differences. Time has shown they do things different than other cultures. We can't continue being the World's police.
RIGHT ON!
Why are we there....really?
What good can come from us being there?
Why do we need to sacrifice the lives of our young Americans?

Our country is turning to poop.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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In a madrasa, somewhere in the Middle East....

"See what they think of us in the United States, children?"
i dont think it is possible for them to hate us anymore than they already do. and i dont think the obama kiss their butt peace tour did us any good except prove weakness. they only understand strength. like all animals. how many of us do they kill?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Let the rep from China call a vote on it, if he sees fit to. That way it is ( should be ) completely someone else making the nasty decision.

If they vote to do it, we supply $1M less than the highest, and 1,000 troops less than the highest ( usually the UK is 2nd to the US ). While we are at it, let another country figure out how to take out the air defense system.

It will be the representative from Columbia or could be as far out as Germany that is in charge of figuring out if those amounts would work or not.

Libya only accounts for ~ 1% of the world wide oil supply, who really cares what would happen if they stopped producing. The other OPEC nations have a surplus still, they can fill the gap if needed ( they cannot afford much more increase in oil prices, else the population starves ).

The post that the world hates us is pretty much spot on with the jester of bowing doing the 2009 world tour of getting sand kicked in his face.

Bet the world hates the US that much more when we stay out of it, and implements the WI Democrat representative plan (taking the ball and going home ).
 
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by projetmech
i dont think it is possible for them to hate us anymore than they already do. and i dont think the obama kiss their butt peace tour did us any good except prove weakness. they only understand strength. like all animals. how many of us do they kill?

Showing a backbone, and showing ignorant blind hatred for an entire group of human beings, because they don't see the world the same as you, is not the same thing. Every time I see someone say turn the whole area to glass, I cringe.
 
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