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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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So in your opinion it boils down to the fact that you hate omissions worse than lies.

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Jeez DBD, where'd all that outrage go? Didn't mean to run you off.....

 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Good grief! I thought this thing died a natural death!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
Good grief! I thought this thing died a natural death!
It's a slow day, what can I say?

I've been over there in the "arming college campuses" thread too! Joy oh joy!

C'mon Blue, keep up!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by serotta
Just seems like DBD might have a double standard from this thread to the one I linked.
Thought he might like to clarify it. Although he might not, that certainly is his right and I wouldn't condemn him either way.
It's an apples to oranges comparison between the topic of this thread and the thread you linked, so I did not feel inclined to respond to your request to shift topics or connect the two.

This thread is about the organized effort of the MSM to protect the Democratic Party.

To me, that's a big story and the example cited was worthy of its own thread due to the heinous nature of the crime the Democrats committed.

Re: the 'other' thread you wish for me to discuss, I would have posted in that thread if I cared to. For all I know, the editor in the Fox booth that day meant to hit the 2011 clip and he accidently hit the 2010 clip re: the CPAC straw poll (which is pretty much a non-story anyways, as its held before most of the speeches).

Scandalous hatchet job on Paul, or a simple 'live TV' accident? Pretty hard for me to tell based on the content of the rest of the interview, as Paul was treated well and given plenty of chance to speak his piece during the rest of the lenghty air time Fox gave him.

Maybe I should further thread shift, and link the post where K-Mac was outraged that a 'Tea Party' member committed an assault, months before the T-Party was founded. ThenI could demand to know from you why Democrats and the MSM are slectively more outraged about that than they are about Democrats who have been convicted of imprisoning children in exchange for kickbacks.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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So, an organized effort to protect a sub group via selective quotes is different and much more dastardly than an outright lie.
Now I think I understand.
It is much easier for anyone with a pinch of sense to see the lie for what it is, but it takes some research and a bigger helping of intelligence to find the lines lacking from the selective quote. The deed done was much worse because it was a (fill in the blank: democrat/republican/unaffiliated)_____________. Nobody with any common sense at all would be upset over the action without knowing the political affiliation of the perpetrator.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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So, an organized effort to protect a sub group via selective quotes is different and much more dastardly than an outright lie.
Now I think I understand.
It is much easier for anyone with a pinch of sense to see the lie for what it is, but it takes some research and a bigger helping of intelligence to find the lines lacking from the selective quote. The deed done was much worse because it was a (fill in the blank: democrat/republican/unaffiliated)_____________. Nobody with any common sense at all would be upset over the action without knowing the political affiliation of the perpetrator.
Actually, I don't think you do understand, but I won't condemn you either way

Certain errors of omission can be more harmful and 'dastardly' than other errors of comission. Duh. Is that really a hard a concept to grasp?

You seem to be saying that if Fox News makes an error of commission, anyone who complains about larger and more serious errors of omssion by the MSM without condemning Fox is a hypocrite. Sorry, but I disagree.

Oh, and your last sentence has me totally lost. The sentence seems to say that people with common sense can only be upset at the judges if they know the party of the judges. If that is what you are attemping to say, I vehemently disagree.

It is upsetting to me if any judge overcharges youths so that the judge can receive a kickback. It is doubly upsetting that the party of the judge is willfully and knowingly protected from fallout by the mainstream media (who would have trashed the Republican party if given this chance).
 

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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
Actually, I don't think you do understand, but I won't condemn you either way

Semantics.... Thanks for the non-condemnation. ha!

Certain errors of omission can be more harmful and 'dastardly' than other errors of comission. Duh. Is that really a hard a concept to grasp?

Not at all.

You seem to be saying that if Fox News makes an error of commission, anyone who complains about larger and more serious errors of omssion by the MSM without condemning Fox is a hypocrite. Sorry, but I disagree.

I think they both carry similar weights.

Oh, and your last sentence has me totally lost. The sentence seems to say that people with common sense can only be upset at the judges if they know the party of the judges. If that is what you are attemping to say, I vehemently disagree.

It seemed as if that was what you were trying to say. Thanks for clarifying. The party affiliation should have nothing to do with it. You, as I, would have been equally disturbed if it were "R" or "D" judges.

It is upsetting to me if any judge overcharges youths so that the judge can receive a kickback. It is doubly upsetting that the party of the judge is willfully and knowingly protected from fallout by the mainstream media (who would have trashed the Republican party if given this chance).
Precisely, so am I correct, you are defending complete lies while condemning those that omit certain parts of the truth. They are, as you say, apples and oranges. Would you share my belief they are both completely wrong?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Precisely, so am I correct, you are defending complete lies while condemning those that omit certain parts of the truth. They are, as you say, apples and oranges. Would you share my belief they are both completely wrong?
So by introducing the possibility that Fox made a mistake, I am 'defending complete lies'? Sorry, but I don't know why Fox played a 2010 clip during a 2011 story. The context of the rest of their interview indicates to me they were not out to get Ron Paul, and his demeanor does not suggest he was feeling attacked.

Does Fox have a long term pattern of slamming Ron Paul? If they do, I have not seen it, so it would be hard for me to condemn it or defend it. But OK, I'll bite: If Fox is making up lies, I'll condemn it. Happy now?

Does the mainstream media have a long term pattern of defending Democrats? Yep, I've seen it, so I will feel free to condemn it, without consideration of what Fox does or does not do to Ron Paul.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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ZOMG! I was watching Fox this evening, and Greta was interviewing Ohio Governor John Kasich. The banner on the screen said he was WISCONSIN Governor Kasich!

Dastardy, contemptable lies! FOX be hatin' and lyin' again! Especially that Greta! She pretended she had no idea the banner 'mistakenly' said Wisconsin, but I know better. Pure Evil. Can't wait until the Guardians of Truth shred that vile beast.

Clearly this intentional assault on Kasich by Fox cannot be ignored! I CONDEMN FOX! Condemn, I say!
 

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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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ZOMG! I was watching Fox this evening, and Greta was interviewing Ohio Governor John Kasich. The banner on the screen said he was WISCONSIN Governor Kasich!
See, the progressives are right, again!

I'm sure that MSNBC will have that guy Maddow do an in depth analysis on the motives that Fox News and the Koch brothers have to distort the truth about what state Kasich is the governor of.

Lean forward.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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I'm sure that MSNBC will have that guy Maddow do an in depth analysis on the motives that Fox News and the Koch brothers have to distort the truth about what state Kasich is the governor of.
Yep, some intern at Fox typed a banner that said Wisconsin instead of Ohio.

That's at least a month's worth of programming for MSNBC right there.

Meanwhile, Rome burns.

If Bush had unemployment and defecit numbers like The Messiah's, the MSM would be calling for his head. Under a Dem - hey, just tell the masses it's the 'new normal'.

2012 can't come soon enough for me. MSM omissions and comissions won't matter much. Obama is one and done.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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So by introducing the possibility that Fox made a mistake, I am 'defending complete lies'? Sorry, but I don't know why Fox played a 2010 clip during a 2011 story. The context of the rest of their interview indicates to me they were not out to get Ron Paul, and his demeanor does not suggest he was feeling attacked.

Does Fox have a long term pattern of slamming Ron Paul? If they do, I have not seen it, so it would be hard for me to condemn it or defend it. But OK, I'll bite: If Fox is making up lies, I'll condemn it. Happy now?

Does the mainstream media have a long term pattern of defending Democrats? Yep, I've seen it, so I will feel free to condemn it, without consideration of what Fox does or does not do to Ron Paul.
It appears we have some common ground, rather grudgingly on your part, but I certainly see where you are coming from on the grudgingly part.

I agree we should feel free to condemn without consideration of either side that commits lies, mistruths, or any other distortion of fact.

[i]I did see the erroneous banner under Kasich. You guys really think that was done on purpose? She clearly states OHIO Gov. in her dialog, and the banner goes away in a hurry.
I think collective bargaining should be dead, especially in the public employment sector, but nothing can be gained and progress will be stymied by calling each side a liar and a cheat. It just more firmly entrenches divisions.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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[i]I did see the erroneous banner under Kasich. You guys really think that was done on purpose?
No, I don't think it was done on purpose. I was being sarcastic.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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No, I don't think it was done on purpose. I was being sarcastic.
Wow! Didn't see that coming. So much for open dialog.
 
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