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Frank S 01-25-2011 01:18 PM

Where Is It ?
 
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=254401

When I first heard about this issue a couple of years ago I thought, "yeah right". First Mr. Abercrombie had it and now he doesn't? It's looking more and more like Obama's grandmother was telling the truth after all.

avfrog 01-25-2011 06:53 PM

Go figure...

My01SCrew 01-25-2011 06:58 PM

This should end well

Frank S 01-25-2011 11:25 PM

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=255489

harleydude78 01-26-2011 11:17 AM

Good stuff...

Frank S 01-26-2011 03:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE

serotta 01-26-2011 05:25 PM

I heard Evans is back pedaling on the statement. Wonder if the truth will ever surface?
I know, I know, Where's the link? I can't find it again, maybe it never existed, but I feel sure I saw it a few days ago.

wittom 01-26-2011 05:29 PM

I'm going to go on the record and say that I believe that Obama was born in the US, because I don't want to be called a "birther" as it would hurt my feelings.;)

You'd think that someone would be able to produce the proper certificate and end the controversy for Pete's sake!

Why is it that Obama isn't expected to prove that he is a natural born citizen, but it is expected that the "birthers" prove he isn't?

serotta 01-26-2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by wittom (Post 4474720)
I'm going to go on the record and say that I believe that Obama was born in the US, because I don't want to be called a "birther" as it would hurt my feelings.;)

You'd think that someone would be able to produce the proper certificate and end the controversy for Pete's sake!

Why is it that Obama isn't expected to prove that he is a natural born citizen, but it is expected that the "birthers" prove he isn't?

I'm certainly no "birther" expert, or Presidential qualification expert, but it was my understanding that the short form he produced was sufficient to prove live birth in Hawaii and for the elections officials. So no further proof was needed.

screwyou 01-26-2011 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by wittom (Post 4474720)
I'm going to go on the record and say that I believe that Obama was born in the US, because I don't want to be called a "birther" as it would hurt my feelings.;)

You'd think that someone would be able to produce the proper certificate and end the controversy for Pete's sake!

Why is it that Obama isn't expected to prove that he is a natural born citizen, but it is expected that the "birthers" prove he isn't?

I'm on the fence on this one....but it's strange that so much money has been paid and currently being paid to defend and not prove his citizenship.. Wouldn't it be quicker and easier to produce a birth certificate? :coffee:


I've read Obama supporters say that the CIA, FBI, NCIS, and/or ABCDEFG.... investigated this guy before granting him a security clearance...so he must be good. Knowing what is public.....Obama's past and his associations wouldn't grant a Top Secret clearance nor any Special Access Program access. If he was a member of the armed forces and applied for a security clearance with his known associations.....he would only qualify for a Confidential or maybe a Secret clearance and be assigned as a mess cook.

Hey.....Barrack, two servings of meatloaf son.....:wave:

K-Mac Attack 01-26-2011 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by wittom (Post 4474720)
I'm going to go on the record and say that I believe that Obama was born in the US, because I don't want to be called a "birther" as it would hurt my feelings.;)

You'd think that someone would be able to produce the proper certificate and end the controversy for Pete's sake!

Why is it that Obama isn't expected to prove that he is a natural born citizen, but it is expected that the "birthers" prove he isn't?


It is that whole innocent until proven guilty thing in our Constitution. The 5th Amendment gives him the right not to have to testify against himself.

If he wasn't a Natural Born Citizen then I would assume the Secret Service would have stopped him while vetting his right to be POTUS.

dirt bike dave 01-26-2011 06:07 PM

Perhaps Obama could defuse some of the hate from the birthers by releasing his college records.

You know, the records that show he attended college as a US citizen, and not as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia as some alledge.

I guess he's got his reasons...

screwyou 01-26-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by dirt bike dave (Post 4474756)
Perhaps Obama could defuse some of the hate from the birthers by releasing his college records.

You know, the records that show he attended college as a US citizen, and not as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia as some alledge.

I guess he's got his reasons...

I'm curious....has anything of substance been released about Obama's college years? Seems to me another roadblock on knowing what this guy is about.

If Obama was a Republican......the MSM would be investigating when, why, how and what lead up to the conception.

K-Mac Attack 01-26-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by dirt bike dave (Post 4474756)
Perhaps Obama could defuse some of the hate from the birthers by releasing his college records.

You know, the records that show he attended college as a US citizen, and not as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia as some alledge.

I guess he's got his reasons...


Do you honestly think that even if he put this issue to rest that those that truly hate him would change their view of him? They would find another reason that invalidate his right to the office.

Those against W felt the same way about him. In my opinion, their position was stronger as the Supreme Court based their decision on ideology instead of the Constitution or the will of the people.

I don't like how he is running the country and I think that had he stuck to the goals his base had he would be more popular. That said I hope the Democrats replace him and he is one and out. I doubt that I personally could support a far right winger, but that is me.

Frank S 01-26-2011 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by serotta (Post 4474740)
I'm certainly no "birther" expert, or Presidential qualification expert, but it was my understanding that the short form he produced was sufficient to prove live birth in Hawaii and for the elections officials. So no further proof was needed.

The problems with the short form is that it neither states which of the 2 hospitals he was born in, and does not have the Dr.'s name on it. Both were legal requirements at the time for a "live birth".

Either the guy was born here, or he wasn't. This would be easy to settle. Just release the long form (everyone I know that has been born in the States since the 40's has one) if it exists. Otherwise, people can only believe his grandmother when she states he was born in Kenya.


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