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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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This Is Way Past Due...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/...cation-reform/

I can't wait to see the results of this.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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need more states to come out and do this. how red *** is the teacher's union in NJ? lol
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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This will be interesting to watch.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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The sad state of public schools is the reason we homeschooled our children for the last 15 years.

The really sad part is that I spend maybe $800/yr on books/supplies to homeschool 5 kids and so far we have produced 2 sons that have received full rides at a public and private university.

While public schools spend in the neighborhood of $10,000/ yr / child.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tradosaurus
The sad state of public schools is the reason we homeschooled our children for the last 15 years.

The really sad part is that I spend maybe $800/yr on books/supplies to homeschool 5 kids and so far we have produced 2 sons that have received full rides at a public and private university.

While public schools spend in the neighborhood of $10,000/ yr / child.
I was watching Stossel about 3 nights ago. He had a bunch of union public teachers debating a couple private school teachers. They all concluded that on average, a private school student costs $10,000 a year. A public school student costs on average $18,000.

There needs to be a big push for privatizing schools across America.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Yea, Chris Christie!

Count me among the many parents who make a financial sacrifice to send their children to private schools. The main reason I do this is the decline of the public schools. BTW, public schools in California where I live were some of the best in the world 40 years ago.

The private school we use is not cheap, but they do a GREAT job for far less per student than the public schools.

IMO, if you had a voucher system where parents could choose where to send their kids and public schools had to compete in the market place, the public schools would improve dramatically in a very very short time.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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The initiative sounds interesting and like a pretty good idea.

There are great teachers out there and bad ones and weeding out the bad ones is a good thing.

The issues of cost per student stems from the problem students and their parents.

Most private schools have involved parents and students that want to be there (or parents that make them want to be there).

Most public schools are having to invest in metal detectors and armed security guards because of out of control gang problems. They have students coming to school without the basic needs to be successful because of poor parenting as well. Then the schools are blamed for idiots that attend.

Private schools can turn away problem kids where the public schools have to accept them until they kill someone.

Public schools in many areas are not all that much different than prisons because of the majority of the clientele they deal with.

The few diamonds in the rough they turn out pale in comparison to the groups of thugs that disrupt things.

I will admit I am torn on the voucher system. I hate seeing those that want to get an education hindered by those that don't. At the same rate I see many communities that have excellent public school systems too.

The bottom line is that parents need to raise their kids right and do their job instead expecting others to do it for them.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Notice the last paragraph, "A spokesman for the New Jersey Education Association attacked the governor’s plan saying that once again he was “trying to implement education reform without any input from educators.”

All I have to say to the NJEA is,"cry me a river." They are afraid, very afraid that some of their cronies will lose their jobs due to incompetence.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Here is another fail in public schools!!! They plan to spend 2.8 Million to fix a football field that the team can't play on!!! This coming while they have a severe budget shortfall!!!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/b...hschool-273166
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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This thread sounds a little like teacher bashing. Maybe I am reading it wrong? As with any occupation there are good ones and bad ones. At least in my area I feel the majority are in it for the right reasons. My county has the best public system in the state. As the husband of a teacher I appreciate and respect what my wife does.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Many of us know or are related to teachers, and nobody has a problem with good teachers.

However, the poor results and high cost of the public schools are HUGE problems.

Wanting improved performance and accountability from those in public education is not the same as 'attacking teachers'.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
Many of us know or are related to teachers, and nobody has a problem with good teachers.

However, the poor results and high cost of the public schools are HUGE problems.

Wanting improved performance and accountability from those in public education is not the same as 'attacking teachers'.
Exactly!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ab46501
This thread sounds a little like teacher bashing. Maybe I am reading it wrong? As with any occupation there are good ones and bad ones. At least in my area I feel the majority are in it for the right reasons. My county has the best public system in the state. As the husband of a teacher I appreciate and respect what my wife does.
Yes, you're reading it wrong. I don't think anyone would disagree that there are many teachers that need to find another line of work.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Stop busing these kids all around the cities and allow them to attend school in their home areas. Integration is on thing but so many kids so far away from home being bused all around the city, what a nightmare
 
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