Just seemed like you were in the wrong thread

 

Conservatism has been tried and failed many times over in this country.

Locking up the borders and not interacting with the rest of the world failed. After WW 1 we failed to join the League of Nations and tried to isolate ourselves. It doesn't work.

How does anyone think letting our auto manufacturers go under helps things. All 3 get parts from the same suppliers and if GM had failed, Ford would have gone down too. How does shedding thousands of more jobs help?

Does it upset me that we have to support the banks, insurance companies and manufacturers? Sure it does but the alternative is worse.

As for the national debt. When Clinto left office the debt was about 6 trillion and we were starting to run surpluses. When Bush left office our deficit was over 11 trillion. Wow that's some conservative!!!

Are we running deficits with Obama? Yes because things had spiraled out of hand and it takes investment to fix things. I would much rather spend money on our people than rebuilding Iraq. We have spent billions building things there they don't want or need. Worse yet they get destroyed by insurgents. Iraq is sitting on a big oil well. Let them pay for their own crap.

 

Who said Bush was conservative? When you compare him to Obama, of course he APPEARS conservative. Reagan was the last conservative. Plus, I think we did just fine after WW1. We grew into the number one nation in the world.

 

Of course you allow GM to fail so that it can be bought by people that know how to manage a profitable business.

So now you have Americans who refuse to purchase from a company that has been propped up with taxpayer dollars. This has been a contributing factor to Ford gaining sales.

Liberals like Obama, and pseudo conservatives like Bush wouldn't know the free market if it bit them in the behind.

Someday you will see most if not all home mortgages nationalized because pandoras box has not only been opened, but destroyed. The idea has already been bantered about in international financial circles since America can no longer pay it's debt. The Fed can't keep purchasing MBS's forever with printed money and China continues to diversify out of the dollar.

Heck, we can no longer even keep up with the interest on the national debt now that Hussein has spent more money than every president from Washington to Reagan combined.

 

The failure of the US to join the League of Nations left it without any power and it was a meaningless organization. It is likely that the atrocities Hitler committed and WW2 would not have happened with a strong League of Nations.

In addition prior to FDR, another conservative...Herbert Hoover drew us into the Great Depression. It seems the GOP is always in the driver's seat when the truck crashes!

 

So you are blaming the US for Hitler's atrocities and WW2?

And the great depression was all the fault of Herbert Hoover?

Hey why stop there? I'm sure the Republicans caused the great flu outbreak of 1918 by stalling national health care, and the US surely caused the genocides in Cambodia.

Seriously - Where do you learn this tripe?

 

Good Grief!

 

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Kmac, you really have a warped view of history. Study what the Federal Reserve did leading up to the 1929 stock market crash. Then please get back to us before you throw Hoover under the bus. Talk about inheriting a mess.

 

The League of Nations was powerless and just kept giving into him rather than face him. The rest of the world couldn't stand up to Hitler so they let the evil leader continue to take over its neighbors.

All I am saying is that it is a coincidence that Hoover a Republican was at the wheel with the Great Depression. Bush a Republican was at the wheel for the worst recession since the Great Depression. If you look into that more than the interesting comparison then...well???

 

Yes leading up to the stock market crash in 1929 people were leveraging their investments to the max. They had little real money into it and were up to their eyes in debt. Sound familiar to our housing crash? Garbage loans were done in the 2000s with no documentation and no oversight. Greed took us down. People need big brother to look over their shoulders sometimes to keep them honest. I wish it wasn't true but the proof is in the pudding.

 

TYes but we fixed that. Boy-o-boy that united nations sure does a bang up job for us doesn't it!

See above.

It was "Big Brother" that was pushing those loans. That's if you call people like Barney Fwank big brother.

 

Why do we have to be the globe's medic, humanitarian's, baby sitter's. I'm tired of being bombarded with news of helping some foreign **** hole being rebuilt, or built from OUR TAX PAYERS MONEY. I haven't seen a quarter of them worthless sacks of **** help us when a ****ing hurricane blows through.

 

Finally, someone found a YT video of Bucky 'moonlighting'.
I warned you'z about him a long time ago, but did ya listen? Hell no.

 

amen!!!!!!!

 

K-Mac...who said we don't care about our business? I certainly do, but when they are mismanaged and abused for personal gain, they deserve to go under. And yes, it would cost a couple of million jobs, but thats the correct way to do it.
Instead, they stole (yes stole) more of our tax dollars to pay these goons to keep their doors open. Where in the constitution does it say that Joe Taxpayer is to be held liable for someone else's business. IT DOESNT! Thats the beauty of the free market. The strong survive, the weak and corrupt crash.

Come on man, you have an MBA. Act like it. Put the KoolAid down and forget what your liberal professors crammed in your head. I even had liberal professors down here in Mississippi, and some were an embarassment to the business school.