Where was your federal training, BennyHanna?
No shotgun, only pistols. I am not disputing deadly force, if the guy threatens cops with a gun, he's going to die, would be stupid to think he isn't, and I don't think this was racially motivated, either, I just feel as if they had a chance to shoot someone so some of them shot as much as they possibly could. Show me a guy shot 40 times with .45s who is still a threat to anything (other than staining the ground with his blood) and I'll kiss your hind end. I know that cops are trained for this situation, and I know that people react differently, but seriously, if there's one guy and more than one of you empty your .45 into him and you stop, reload and then start again, you're going to be branded a little trigger-happy. Not all of the cops felt the need to empty their weapons into this guy, and I wouldn't second guess the guy beside me if our lives were on the line and he felt the need to keep on shooting, but I would definitely research it after the fact, and evidence like 59 shots fired at one guy wouldn't go very far into making me believe it was justified. The killing is justified, but the target practice afterwards really is a little over the top. I wasn't there when this happened, and I wasn't in this situation, but I don't believe in giving away a free pass to whoever was just because they were. I can't say that just because they did it that it had to be justified. Oh well, I guess TBI and FBI will figure it out, not up to my department. Kind of a moot point anyway, the intent was to kill and if he was dead then it really doesn't matter all that much how many times he was shot afterwards, but I still think it was way more than necessary, which IMO makes it excessive force.
Also, I don't feel strongly enough to fight about it with anyone, just making conversation and I love f150online.com's general conservative attitude towards matters like this and it was an interesting story.

 

Uhmmmm....So? Nothing wrong if they want to continue fighting to protect the purity of their race. Their forefathers purchased their freedom in blood so must they.

 

Oh, dude had it coming. If you don't want shot, then drop your weapon when the cops tell you to. I would certainly lay mine down if the police told me to and I'd answer questions later, but you better make very clear that you aren't a threat first. I think the family wants a little money out of this is why it's all of a sudden turned into a racial murder by police. He had it coming, he just probably didn't have it coming 59 times.

 

If the cops truly hit him 43 out of 59 shots, I have one thing to say:

That's damn good aim!

 

So what are you saying?......Maybe should have called in a black cop to shoot him?
White people die from gun shots too, even innocent by standers. The guy was wack and out gunned-no race issue. Also had a record.

If dear old dad thought all he wanted was someone to talk to the why didn't he talk to him?

Lotta BS here. I'm sure Sharpton will chime in shortly.

 

Considering there were six officers and each of them were most likely trained the same way (shoot until the threat is no longer a threat) it makes sense that they all shot until the threat was no longer present. I've been to two federal police academies and one local and they all teach that same tactic as far as shooting. One even had an agent relay a story where he shot a subject five times in the torso and was still the recipient of a rather impressive beat down, before he was able to get in a shot to stop the threat. Relying on the media to provide accurate information in any police related issue is betting on a long shot. Many of the shots missed the subject and some hit arms and legs. Leaving few to actually hit something vital enough to stop the threat. It really does come down to get the rounds off as fast and accurately as possible.

 

If his gun is still in his hand, he's still a threat. It probably took that many shots to blow his arm off.

 

I'm just glad that they were blowing this guy to hell, and not handing out chicken $ hit tickets

 

On first glance 59 shots seems like a few too many there have been cases in which it would not have been enough. I have read an article from the FBI on Handgun wounding and effectiveness. In one case study there was a criminal that was shot almost 80 times before he died. Until then he was firing back and trying to escape. It turned out the guy was pumped full of drugs and felt nothing. The SWAT AR-15 rounds were not even putting him down. Even though Hollywood believes otherwise a pistol will not knock you down. You are getting hit with the same overall energy as a pitched baseball.

If we had video or were there we could make an accurate judgment. Otherwise we are only guessing what happened.

 

The police are alive the bad guy is dead I dont see the problem here. If some one breaks into my house at night God have mercy on his soul.

 

That's right, if every bad guy were to be shot even after dead this world would be a better place.

 

I was in the military for over 8 years. 2 in the Army 6+ in the Navy. I not only took classes/was taught shooting in a war time environment I also took law enforcement/security classes. I was a member of my ships version of the swat team in the Navy. I'm now working for a state agency, that will remain nameless as well as what I do for them will also remain nameless (I like my private life private, criminals have no need to know anything I've posted on here or anywhere else. I'm really not trying to sound badass or anything, I just don't like them knowing anything about me).

 

Thank you for your service and the privacy thing is a GOOD call, I'm sure everyone understands.