I kept blowing off the 'birthers' as nutty and wacky, but they keep coming back... I know this is not 'proof' but it makes me really start to wonder, "Hey maybe these birthers are not so crazy after all."

2 accounts of Obamas wife telling the crowds that Obama's home country is Kenya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht1qeK3roU0
(First 20 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxh1PvjP0Ug
(First 45 seconds)


I'm just saying....seems really odd

 

Same speech/account, the second is just better quality.

I think it's a fishy situation.

 

Old news.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

 

I'm not sure about it, the wording is different in both videos. I think this was part of a campaign she did and the setup looks the same, but I could be wrong...

 

Whether it is true or not is water under the bridge at this point. The Supreme Court isn't going to touch this with a "ten foot pole" and the State of Hawaii's keeper of the records swears the files to be accurate.

This argument is about as silly as a Progressive arguing that George W. Bush should be stripped of the presidency ten years after he "stole" it from Gore with some shady actions! You can't turn back the past.

Things kind of have a way of evening themselves out, you know? Anyhow...does any Conservative want Joe Biden as President?

 

I think they keep joe biden locked up in the dungeon below the white house. His mouth has it's own brain.

 

If you can get the parts playing at the same time, they match up perfectly.

 

actually, you can "turn back the past"... courts do it all the time. Whether they will or not... well, that's the argument we're having, isn't it?

I suppose I'm a birther. I don't know where the liar in chief was born, but i do know he has refused to show a birth certificate. He, and his minions, have posted some things on the internet they claim to be a birth certificate, but they aren't signed by the doctor, or midwife, or whoever, delivered him, nor do they name the clinic, hospital, house, or where the birth took place.
those are not birth certificates.
i'd like to see it. i had to show one to get in the army. isn't the office of the president deserving of at least that level of care?

 

What guarantee does the President have that you will mail it back after you're done looking at it?

 

 

I am somewhat critical of Obama on this myself. Why would he spend over $1.5 million and climbing to hide every document that proves he is what he says he is? His BC and school records are completely sealed from public viewing. The only shred of evidence he has shown is a faked certificate of live birth which proves nothing. Around here we say, "Where there's smoke there's a fire." A person going through this much effort to hid something so simple sure does look suspicious.

 

Wookie is right, whats the point of going thru such lengths to keep something under wraps if you have nothing to hide. Obviously, there is something shady going on. There wouldn't be ANY reason to hide your school records, except that if we had access to them, we would kno if he had come from another country. So why would he keep them hidden???


Not these days, with this government and these court systems. Courts wouldn't do anything about this. If it was ever proven that he wasn't native, they'd just amend the constitution, i can about guarantee that. Like healthcare, i can about guaratee that will NEVER be repealed or whatever either. Even if we get conservative ppl in who don't want it. Things are already set in motion, and i think it will be about impossible to get anything done about it. We're on a path of destruction..

 

Here is what I have found on my own...my twin boys were born almost two years ago. The hospital sends the info electronically to the county and I got a certificate that looked similar to what he submitted. There was no doctor signature and was pretty basic.

I requested a copy of my birth certificate from Missouri and got a similar document. I was born in 1975. Now I have my parents' certificates from the 1940's and they are more manually done. However if I requested a copy today, I would get the updated version instead of a photocopy of the original.

President Obama's mother was born in the US making her a citizen and her offspring are automatically natural born citizens as well regardless of what corner of the world he was born.

The reality is that during the election of Nov. 2008, then Senator Obama got more votes than Senator McCain and Senator Obama became President Elect Obama that night.

We can go round and round on the issue. Unless someone can produce valid proof otherwise he really has no reason to do anything. Maybe if someone can produce a non-photo-shopped picture of him popping out or something. The fact his last name isn't Jones and his father is not American born doesn't prove enough evidence for a grand jury to move forward against him.

People, even the president are entitled to a degree of privacy. We all have things that we are embarrassed about and hide in our closets that we don't want to be public. Who knows...maybe he got a D in some class in 4th grade that he isn't proud of!

 

That's an ignorant statement...
When your in a democracy, and your running to be elected to the most powerful position in the most powerful country. He can keep his sex life private somewhat, but thats about it. You can't keep your "records" hidden when your running for public office. Him and his administration are steam rolling the constitution! Thats what this is about! I kno u "progressives" don't care about any of that tho! I have the right to bitch and moan all i want, thank you..

Do you kno anything about this at all? Yes his mother was a natural born citizen. She forfeited her citizenship, which if i remember correctly, makes him not a citizen. If i'm not mistaken, in Kenya, you have to be a legal citizen to attend school there which O did. That's why she would have renounced her citizenshp, making them not American.

I did kno more on this but i got so tired of keeping up with the way they are destroying the foundation/political landscape of this country that i hardly keep up with it now, i can't remember every detail.

CHICAGO!....go figure

 

Anyone else not know what a birther is/was until this thread?