This will get BIG! Your opinion on what America needs...
No, get with the program. You said because a fetus responded to external stimuli and had electrical activity in the brain, it was alive and therefore the government should protect it.
My response is that the Constitution does not protect all life. Heck, even individual sperm are alive. Does that mean there should be a federal law against whacking off? But that was your argument, a fetus is a living thing therefore the government must protect it even if it entails the government having more say about what goes on inside your woman's womb than you do.
My response is that the Constitution does not protect all life. Heck, even individual sperm are alive. Does that mean there should be a federal law against whacking off? But that was your argument, a fetus is a living thing therefore the government must protect it even if it entails the government having more say about what goes on inside your woman's womb than you do.
I'm talking about your claim that the President was lying to us about abortion. What do you support that claim with?
Here are some facts you may not know:
A fetus cannot feel pain until the third trimester. Abortions are typically performed in the 1st trimester or the beginning of the second tri-mester.
A fetus does not even stand a 50% chance of surviving (even in an incubator) until after the 2nd half of the second trimester.
It's my opinion that the federal government should not be tasked with regulating a woman's womb. Next thing you know women will be told there is a form they must fill out if they ever miss a period. That way the Feds can track potential pregnacies to help them determine if perhaps a crime has been commited.
Last edited by Real; Mar 11, 2010 at 08:13 PM.
A fetus IS a human being whether you believe it or not. It has never turned out to be anything else.
Real here is a fact you may not know
'Pro-Choice' is just a nice way of saying 'I support the killing of unwanted babies.' You're hiding behind these code words to make it sound acceptable. If you claim that we're hiding behind our code words, thats great I'll hide behind being 'Pro Life.'
I'm so glad I won't have to one day answer for being liberal-minded. Im far from perfect, but at least when I answer to God, I will confidently say that I was a humble man who supported his gift of life and spread his word throughout my life. I seriously invite you to consider listening to what the fundamentals of Christianity are and how it will ultimately save you.
'Pro-Choice' is just a nice way of saying 'I support the killing of unwanted babies.' You're hiding behind these code words to make it sound acceptable. If you claim that we're hiding behind our code words, thats great I'll hide behind being 'Pro Life.'
I'm so glad I won't have to one day answer for being liberal-minded. Im far from perfect, but at least when I answer to God, I will confidently say that I was a humble man who supported his gift of life and spread his word throughout my life. I seriously invite you to consider listening to what the fundamentals of Christianity are and how it will ultimately save you.
It seems to be basic biology, you know, cells dividing and all....so life begins at conception and it is divine.
The view from this side is that Pro Life simply means mandating how a person uses their their reproductive rights. This is just another infringement on personal liberty.
I'm so glad I won't have to one day answer for being liberal-minded. Im far from perfect, but at least when I answer to God, I will confidently say that I was a humble man who supported his gift of life and spread his word throughout my life. I seriously invite you to consider listening to what the fundamentals of Christianity are and how it will ultimately save you.
Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder and madder. - Homer Simpson
I'm so glad I won't have to one day answer for being liberal-minded. Im far from perfect, but at least when I answer to God, I will confidently say that I was a humble man who supported his gift of life and spread his word throughout my life.
By the way, Jesus was a liberal. And I am against abortion just as I believe Jesus would have been. But Jesus would not have supported Ceasar taking away an individuals right to make that important decision themselves.
Last edited by Real; Mar 12, 2010 at 01:40 PM.
I've been reading some of these posts and they are terrific..
This is my stance on abortion...
The government has no right to tell a woman that should keep her child.. The reason why I say that:
God forbid a woman gets raped.. Would you want your child having to go through a pregnancy for a unwanted child? Would you want to take a chance that your own daughter could die in child birth bringing a rapist off spring into the world..
Sorry I don't agree with that.. Is abortion wrong I believe it is.. But it is the woman's choice and no one else's what she wants to do with her body and her child..
If we let the government dictate to us these kinds of laws, we might as well let them pass a law telling us when to have sex..
Or better yet let them give us meds so we can't have children, and when they think the time is right they take us off the meds and then we can have children.. I THINK NOT....
The sad part is we gave the government too much rope and now we are getting hung by it...
James
This is my stance on abortion...
The government has no right to tell a woman that should keep her child.. The reason why I say that:
God forbid a woman gets raped.. Would you want your child having to go through a pregnancy for a unwanted child? Would you want to take a chance that your own daughter could die in child birth bringing a rapist off spring into the world..
Sorry I don't agree with that.. Is abortion wrong I believe it is.. But it is the woman's choice and no one else's what she wants to do with her body and her child..
If we let the government dictate to us these kinds of laws, we might as well let them pass a law telling us when to have sex..
Or better yet let them give us meds so we can't have children, and when they think the time is right they take us off the meds and then we can have children.. I THINK NOT....
The sad part is we gave the government too much rope and now we are getting hung by it...
James
I don't want the government having a say about who prospers and who fails. Government needs to stay out of our personal lives. That would be the true definition of a nanny state.
If we are going to let women kill thier unborn children, which I believe needs to be legal, highly regulated and done in a professional medical environment, then we need to allow thoes who fail in raising thier children to suffer the consequence, right?
If we are going to let women kill thier unborn children, which I believe needs to be legal, highly regulated and done in a professional medical environment, then we need to allow thoes who fail in raising thier children to suffer the consequence, right?



