Does anyone here know about how to do patent research without paying a lawyer. i have an idea about refrigeration, that is simple but it has the potential of saving small companies allot of service calls

 

I already thought of that but, when you leave stuff outside people steal it.

 

my idea actually involves some of your research. you know on the old gas fired refrigerater, how they used amonia. Well my ideeeea, is going to involve some of the goat methane you have been collecting. peckerhead.

But seriously, how would you go about patent research with out paying a crooked a**ed lawyer?

 

http://uspto.gov/

A good patent attorney can peruse the database really fast.
The US Patent office uses some funky lingo that makes searching yourself futile. If they're any decent they should only charge a little $$.
My Pat. Att. had his secretary do a "quick search" on something that I had dreamed up...no charge!
Good Luck with it.

PS....Whatever happened to all the great inventions from that TV show?
You know....where the winners won money and their inventions were going to be marketed?
The last winner was the Christmas tree topper that would extinguish (the tree)if it caught on fire.

 

Thamks man. I appreciate the reply That is a queation I always wanted answered

 

Your an ammonia refer mech/op too?

 

Damn, why do lawyers always get a bad rap? There are slime ***** in the field just as there are in any other field

 

One little known secret about house hold ammonia refrigerators. If they don't work, but are still have a sealed system. Just turn them upside down for 24 hours, then right them and light the thermocouple. 9 times out of 10 they'll go right back to work. But I haven't seen one of those old systems in several years. They're all pretty much antiques now

 

Yup. I think you have to have the proper education to find your way around that site. I would just like to research an idea. The site contains all the crossed T's and dotted I's . But I wonder how you would research an idea. The idea I have is a very simple one. I'm sure it has been thought of before, it would be cheap to produce, and practical. But I've never seen it in practice. It would save people money, and help the atmosphere.
So how do you find out if someone has a patent on it. I have looked the Site over, and all I can really find are legal aspects, and not patented products.

I just wouldn't want to pay a lawyer to research something, I'd feel violated, if they told me I was an idiot after they took my money.

 

ah i dont fiddle with the little ammonia fridge like they used for RV application. Never actually even seen one first hand to be honest.

I stumbled into a plant with just shy of 2000 hp worth of ammonia compressors and I think 1900 ton ammonia. Been learning that system, looks old, but decently planned out 2 stage system.

 

The ammonia systems I've been exposed to aren't on an industrial scale that you're talking about.
What amazes me is that they can work just by heat and convection. I feel like for the time period they were produced, they were advanced for their time. They were just out performed by the fluorocarbon units with forced air, and less danger.

You would be surprised by the things I have helped with, and accomplishments I've participated in.
Hadron postulates and inverse matter theory are a favorite.

 

Tumba -- PM sent.

 

but Ammonia is so affordable, so clean. yes its old technology now, but its so damn efficient per pound.
even a closed system without and driving compressors is surprisingly efficient.

I dont think the current FC family we have will ever outperform ammonia per pound. The only reason i believe they are considered over ammonia is because they can be much safer to people if released. ammonia would be freakishly safe if there were more emphasis on the PM's done to the equipment. like EPA crawling up EVERYONE, on a very regular basis, maybe quarterly.

 

Define two stage, does that mean compresed or is it pumped?

 

2 Stage is compressed. the shortest description would be the booster "pump" as they would describe in the books (stage 1 for example) discharges into an intermediate tank or surge drum of some sort that the rest of the system (stage 2) pulls from.