I think i kinda got my public service merit badge... 4 years worth

 

A BIG THANK YOU to you sir.

People like you have a thankless job, just want to try a little change in that.

 

thanks scully its win/loose yes its a service but then again its an all volunteer force. just try to explain it to my wife when i go to the field a week every month. and the go for a month plus every three of four months.

under the flight path of a 22? you in the air force?

 

So, you're ok with legislated compassion?

I have actually done things that I believe will benefit society on a pretty regular basis for years. I have given my time and my money to causes that I believe in. I choose to do so. It's not made into law that I do so. Every day I believe that my actions benefit society. I treat people with respect. I appreciate their contributions to our society. I use common sense. Every day.

We aren't supposed to have to give things up. We are supposed to choose to give a part of what we've worked for. We are supposed to use common sense. We are supposed to be respectful of others. We are supposed to be free of government intrusion.

I don't know why you would do something and get nothing in return. When I give my time I get the satifaction of knowing that I've chosen to do something for others. That's a lot in my book.

You don't think that we can help out society with out giving up something? You don't think that society can be helped without spending trillions of tax dollars?

 

Could you be any more condescending?

Spare us the sanctimonius lecturing. The fact that our country is on a runaway train to Socialism is painful enough already without someone telling us we don't give enough.

 

No thanks, I am not going to try to explain that to your wife, I'll leaving that one to you

I fly for work a lot, and live next to ORD. After 2 decades of doing this, have a tenancy to figure out what runways are where.

 

Oh haha i was thinking f22 like the raptor (the same ones the president yanked funding for) see I just cant turn it off. lol

I have a real good Italian friend from Chicago, hes in Iraq till January real good guy. So I cant say everything that comes outa Chicago is dis-tasteful to me

 

Do you guys see what they do to these cars once you give them to the dealer.. They drain the oil, they put this crap in the engine and let it run for about 2-3 and it seizes the motor.. Then off to the crusher.....


Also you are qualified if your looking at a car that get 5 MPG more that the car you are driving now.. IF your car doesn't run you don't count.. They have some vids on youtube of people blowing up the cars...


James

 

Can't argue with that. If I were in charge, I would have let all those banks, unions, and car manufactures go down, even if they helped fund my campaign. They got themselves into this position, they can damn well face the consequences for their greed and incompetence.

 

Thats a stand and a good one no hand outs or goverment kick backs.... the only problem is the average joe citizen has to pay for the corruption of its CEO's. the bail outs could have worked but it doesn't matter there greed is still to much they can't miss those Caribbean vacations.

its not just the big boys, its the rest of us trying to keep up with the Jones foreclosures, repos, bankruptcy we have done it to ourselves. no one takes pride in what we do anymore we would rather out source to tawian. Or the quote that pisses me off "they do the jobs Americans won't do" bull**** they do they jobs Americans cant do for half of min. wage but thats a whole other topic im not going to start on.

Karl Marx's had a vision for a perfect world only thing is humans will never let it happen. we are to greedy

 

EXACTLY!!!

We're all here pointing fingers all over the place except for at ourselves.

What's got to happen in this country goes far beyond ridding our government of self serving, self centered, politicians. We've got to check ourselves. I, with the help of some "voices of reason", saw a couple years ago that I couldn't continue on the path that I was on. I was becoming one of thoes people that I though that I had been more responsible than.

I'd become a "slave to credit" when it appeared that things were good. Fortunately I didn't get in too deep. Now, that the economy is hurting, the message should be LOUD AND CLEAR! We can see the writing on the wall. It's so bright and bold that we can't miss it.

The government has been telling us that it has to do things NOW and that, though we have to borrow the money, we will pay it back. Today, the government doesn't tell us that it's going to borrow the money to pay for the myriad programs that it's enacting in it's quest to level the playing field. It just does it, attempting to divert the medias and the peoples attention from what it's doing.

We are a part of the problem. The thing is, many of us have realized this. Many of us have put in the effort to restrict ourselves. To tighten our budgets. To keep better control of our spending. It shouldn't be asking too much to expect the government to do the same. In fact, it's our responsibility to make sure that the government is working within the powers that we've granted it.

So, when are we going to live up to OUR RESPONSIBILITY?

For all that this "cash for clunkers" program is or isn't, it isn't with in the powers that we, the American people, have granted the government. We need to correct that, if nothing else.

 

I can answer your questions further with answers and response questions, but am not going to. I know you all can figure out what those are so you don't need me to ask you them. I'm sorry that I was condescending. I'll refrain from that by adhering to the above statement.

Thanks for your military service gcw. You are doing a good job for your country.

Have a good day gentlemen.

 

This is just another example of redistribution of wealth. all of us that pay taxes usually go out and buy cars. the recipients of this cash for clunkers deal on the most part do not pay taxes.

I wonder how much theft and fraud there is going on with this deal?

And as was said on fox......if they could not figure the amount of buyers looking to take advantage of this and ran out of money. how are they going to manage health care?

 

Was just coming to post about this.

They put what someone referred to as "Liquid Glass" in the engine, run it at 2000RPM until the motor siezes, then it's marked and sent off to the chippers.

OK.. Well they ARE suppose to be off the road, right? -- They are approving perfectly fine cars as clunkers, like, for example, a mint 2000 Taurus loaded, 53k miles. Off to the chippers to never be on the road again. Hey -- Who needed any lightly used parts anyways. Thats only one example, among more are perfectly fine JEEP's, trucks...

Your government is **** . Pretty soon they'll start taking everything, bye bye private sales, garage sales, bartar systems and swap meets.

Maybe soon automobiles will be government owned like money and licence plates.

Small time used car lots are going to be hurtin'.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_S9XJlmlzI

Good insite on maybe why dealers weren't selling ****, and $4500 later they have ran through a $1 billion dollar plan in a month.