The federal government is rapidly seizing power that belongs to the people and the states, and you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, why they would do that, or how the people in power would benefit?

Please think about it.

BTW, back in the good old days of the Soviet Union, the party leaders drove around in limosuines and dined on caviar, while the average man was taking the bus to the store hoping there might be a loaf of bread.

Honestly, they don't want to re-create the Soviet Union. They believe that they will make us better off, and protect us from our own stupidity by making all the decisions for us.

 

It's not only "democrats" that stand to gain. It's "people" in our government who are jockying for a position of power. It's "people" out for their own personal gain. It's at the publics expense, or detriment.

It's a lot easier to control the masses if they can funnel us all into a neat, orderly line. (Excessive rules and regulations are a way to facilitate that.) They've made a lot of "progress" getting people to fall in line. Now they' have to exert more effort to compel the people who are resistant. They aren't too happy about that.

What people in our government stand to gain is power. Freedom and legislated servitude cannot coexist. If we have our freedom, they can't have as much power. If they have so much power, we're servants to them.

 

Don't you get it? "Pissing in the Well" is the entire basis of the Democratic political agenda -- just look at California as the Poster Child!

There isn't a single social cause that state hasn't supported and thrown massive amounts of government money towards, however, no Californian's seem to want their taxes raised. This Ponzi Scheme can sustain itself for about a generation, until finally businesses have been taxed to death and flee, and the government runs out of money, yet all the citizens stand around looking at each other as if their astonished this all happened!

This same scenario will play out with the United States as well -- probably in my son's lifetime. Yet people willingly send Democrats to Washington year, after year, after year, thinking they're getting something for nothing.........

 

It sounds to me like everyone that has any political spot right now should be kicked out and filled in by average Joe's, and this should happen every 2 years. And no more of this BS Republican vs Democrat rivalry that I've seen all my life. Both political parties are retarded and never do what their followers want them to do.

 

It is by no means a Republican-Democrat thing. Politicians are crooks. They have forgotten several things: 1) THEY WORK FOR US not their agenda's 2) What our forefathers founded this country on; I could go on forever. Problem is Obama doesn't seem to care and is doing things to destroy us day by day. It is true that the media is kissing his backside and is part of the problem. Call me a right wing extremist, but I'm literally scared of what's to come and am already teaching my 6yr old about our past and scary future to come.

Tea parties are a great start but we need the whole country behind this!!!! You think MLK changed things when he had 1million people marched on Washington? What if we could get 2 million. It's going to take that and drastic other measures to get these POS politicians to wake up. Pelosi, Geitner, Obama and several others need to dissappear.

Wake up America, stand up for yourselves! Did you want to be a car company owner? You are now. Did you want to own land in Kalifornia? You do now.

 

The biggest political mistake that was made in my lifetime was when the Republican's backed down on their promise to install term limits after they took the House and Senate in the mid-90's.......

 

It's all about control. If you depend on the government for your job, food, shelter, energy etc... etc.. etc.. then they control you.

We are a Country with a Government but this current administration appears to think they are a Government with a Country.

 

Exactly what law has changed in the 5 months that turned us into a "Socialist" nation??

Bush had already bought the banks with the 800 Billion in TARP.

We were officially in a Recession ALL of 2008.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNTL14FCBU.DTL

Hopefully we'll pull out soon.

I don't know, all I see is businesses and people losing their jobs and going under. Yeah, you get a few more months unemployment but once that's gone you're screwed.

I see people losing their jobs and their Health care with it. GM facing bankruptcy. People losing their houses. Looks like Capitalism at work to me... I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's something we all have to endure, but it's definitely Capitalism...

 

Could somebody please tell me at what point in this historic (and very sad) transformation we need to start calling each other "comrades?" If we wait long enough, I'm sure Hillary Clinton will tell us.

 

I don't think too many said that Bush didn't have a fault in it. As a conservative I'll be the first to step up and lay blame on him for part of it.

I'm not trying to play partisan politics here, but take a look at some of the big events of 2008....housing crash....President Bush called for an oversight committee for Freddie and Fannie.....Bawney Fwank said they were viable and profitable companies and didn't need an over sight committee while dealing with the bundled mortgages (also the CRA which was put into legislation during Carter's (d) term. In reality the housing crash was a combination of 3 things and without 1 you don't have the bubble and the subsequent crash.....
1. Stupid government policies
2. Stupid Banks
3. Stupid People

Now like I said, don't get me wrong, Bush spent like a drunken sailor in Singapore with the bailouts etc.... I think the last stimulus he sent out was at the wrong time.....too little too late. So it ended up being a waste of money but I'm sure it helped some people who needed it.

Step in "Dear Leader" ie. Obama....comes in with a promise of "change" in Washington politics....no more wasteful government spending....transparency in government...etc...etc...etc...

All I've heard since he came into office is "Panic and Fear...Panic and Fear...Panic and Fear".

1. The financial crisis. We have to push this bill through today or the U.S. could lose 500,000,000 jobs a month (from Pelosi). Obama had such a push on Congress most of our statesmen didn't have time to read the bill and just signed. It's not just the D or R, it was all of them. This is after Obama Promised transparency and to have the bill posted online for 48 hours so the public could see it.

2. Within that same bill were over $8,000,000,000 in earmarks for things ranging to research on pig odors to $819,000 for catfish genetics research. This is after Obama promised to go line by line and cut out wasteful spending
Then a few months later some AIG Executive who signed a contract to work for $1 a year with promise of a bonus (signed in their contract) receive $72,000,000 in bonuses and all hell breaks loose on Capital Hill. Where was that rage and anger when they signed through $8,000,000,000 in wasteful earmarks. I understand that some ear marks do a lot of good for local areas and I'm all for that....but look at some of them that passed.

3. Look at the things that have happened since Jan. 20....Financial Crisis...AIG Outrage...Swine Flu....now the GM Fiasco. When does it stop. When people hear about this stuff on the news where do they look for answers? The government. They are getting just what they want....more control. Rham Emmanuel said himself, "Rule one: Never allow a crisis to go to waste. They are opportunities to do big things.”. That's what this first 5 months of office has been.....crisis after crisis after crisis....which converts to usurping of rights and more rules and regulations that the people think are "keeping them safer".

BHIBBS, you really can't be that blind.....the answer to this....term limits to people in congress. People like Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, etc... need to get out. Pelosi was caught in her own lie about water boarding...I hope that sealed the deal for her demise.

 

Yeah -- that might happen......

I don't know what you're watching, but I haven't seen any groundswell of opposition toward her from all the Lefties that have been turning themselves inside out in agony over waterboarding. She is a flat-out LIAR, but the Left and the mainstream media are very selective on who they take to task for lying......

 

You can keep justifying the giving Obama a pass by making this an issue about Bush. Using this argument is like greasing yourself to make it easier for the government to funnel you into a neat, tidy line.

The point of the handful of us on this board that show that we do care about what is happening to our country is, it's got to stop NOW, and we've got to hold our representatives accountable so that it doesn't just continue to happen over and over again.

People like you can make this a Bush vs. Obama fight all you want, and the current administrations will welcome your distraction. There are a few of us who are fighting for a return to a country that is governed by people who aren't out to be career politicians, but who volenteer to server the public. People who understand and work to preserve the blueprints that the founding fathers worked so hard to create.

It's sad that people like you choose to justify what is happening today as a punishment for the past. It's a punishment that we'll all suffer, and we may suffer for a long, long time.

 

I find it strange that CountryWide was the start of the housing mess.

They fell apart under the "new rules" put in place by Clinton. A chicken in every pot, a pot in every home. He wanted the American dream for everyone, regardless if they could afford it.

At what time did everyone start seeing 125% mortgages ? Think that was between the Bush and Bush, if my memory is not fading too much.

I'm from the metro area, and all I can say is if you have hope for a Chicago politician, then you still believe in the tooth fairy. They are the worst when it comes to politics, back scratchers for everyone ( in power ).

Where else in America can a brother in law get a no show job with the city, and get caught selling drugs, and get away with it ?

It has nothing to do with what side they are from, it is where they are from. When I saw the candidate race was down to the 2 from Chicago ( one specialized in AR politics ) I knew we were in trouble.

Say they are against big government, then create a new position that requires no vetting, that is the way it is done here.

 

For the Record, I've been complaining about the Government (specifically the Executive) getting too much Power for the last 8 Years.

9/11 was used to give the government WAY too much power. First the patriot act, then their interpretation of Laws, secret prisons, etc. They acted like Republicans would be in charge of things forever. Now Pelosi and Obama have all the power...

I don't like ANYONE to have this much power. I want the government out of my business. They've been tapping Civilian phone lines and who knows what else under the guise of The War on Terror.

So what, anyone that has an AR15 at their home makes the "potential" terrorist list? Giving the government the right to spy on me with no real cause??

That's the kind of power the government's taken the last 8 years. If you were against it 5 years ago, you weren't an American or hated our troops.

Once they have the power, it's hard to get it back...

 

1) BHibbs, in reference to your first post, you want an explantion of Socialism? Ok, how is it Obama can fire the head of a PRIVATE OWNED car company? Gov't run health care? Citizens of the USA paying for all this bailout BS without being asked? Come on!

2) Your second post makes sense, but do you really think they are listening to "average joe's" phone calls? I'm all about them listening to anyone if they have hard evidence that they are doing something to threaten your childen's and mine's future. Speaking of our children. Are you aware that your kids kids are going to be paying off the current debt?

3) Bailouts are crap!!!!! Since when is a business/corporation to big to fail? If you or I, and anyone else here fails at something, do you think the government bails us out? Heck no. I say let GM and The People's Republik of Kalifornia fix their own problems.

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