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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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new shell nitrogen enriched gas?

what are the advantages to using this fuel? i'm going home and tomorrow for the weekend and i filled up with the shell fuel and it said it was that new nitrogen enriched fuel. it says it'll keep the engine clean/cleaner. it doesnt say anything about fuel mileage or hp/torque losses or gains. i just want to know so i know what to expect out of my truck.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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The idea of using nitrogen in gasoline is that it tends to stabilize the gasoline at high temps like those found in todays injection systems. This lets the current additives used to clean your internals do their job more effectively. It also has a tendency to stabilize the gas longer over time. I've been using it for about 2 months now and I have noticed the engine is a little more responsive after a couple of tanks. I assume it's cleaning the junk while I drive. I haven't pulled the top off of the intake to look but I would expect to find it cleaner than normal. It would also allow the injectors to work as they were designed by being cleaner. Otherwise, no fuel mileage decreases or increases.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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My dad's been using for awhile. Says his Focus runs alot better, peppier, and picked up some MPG's to boot.

I put a tank in this weekend. I'll try it for awhile. It's only .10 more than my normal cheap stuff I run.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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The idea of using nitrogen in gasoline is that it tends to stabilize the gasoline at high temps like those found in todays injection systems. This lets the current additives used to clean your internals do their job more effectively. It also has a tendency to stabilize the gas longer over time. I've been using it for about 2 months now and I have noticed the engine is a little more responsive after a couple of tanks. I assume it's cleaning the junk while I drive. I haven't pulled the top off of the intake to look but I would expect to find it cleaner than normal. It would also allow the injectors to work as they were designed by being cleaner. Otherwise, no fuel mileage decreases or increases.
ok thank you. i cant remeber seeing any sign that said it last time i filled up so i dont know if it was what i put in last time or not. this was a different shell station though. i'll see what happens. maybe my check engine light will stay out this time
 
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From the Shell website.... http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa...e_experts.html

We've made a great product even better!

The experts at Shell have found a way to destroy gunk with all three grades of Shell gasoline! Every drop of Shell gasoline contains a NEW Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system that seeks and destroys engine gunk in both conventional and modern engines. There's nothing else like it!

What makes NEW Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines even better?
A unique, patented, improved formula exclusive to Shell designed to seek and destroy engine gunk.
Acts as a barrier to help keep your engine clean and protect it from performance-robbing gunk even better than before.
Helps protect and clean critical engine parts in all three grades of Shell gasoline with the most advanced Shell technology ever.
Helps improve engine performance as you drive.
Has been extensively tested, clocking more than a half-million miles in various engines and vehicles, covering a wide range of conventional, modern turbo-charged, direct fuel- injected and hybrid engines.


Not a placebo.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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My dad's been using for awhile. Says his Focus runs alot better, peppier, and picked up some MPG's to boot.

I put a tank in this weekend. I'll try it for awhile. It's only .10 more than my normal cheap stuff I run.
i fill up with midgrade fuel all the time. this gas was 2.08/gal vs. 2.20/gal at the shell station i used last time. i'm curious to see how it goes. my motor only has about 10000 miles so i dought it'll make a huge difference but it may make a little difference with cleaning the injectors and what not.
the last trip i took home i averaged at 23mpg and 21mpg the time before both using shell midgrade fuel. i'll see what it does this time. the other times were in the winter so we'll see.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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From the Shell website.... http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa...e_experts.html

We've made a great product even better!

The experts at Shell have found a way to destroy gunk with all three grades of Shell gasoline! Every drop of Shell gasoline contains a NEW Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system that seeks and destroys engine gunk in both conventional and modern engines. There's nothing else like it!

What makes NEW Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines even better?
A unique, patented, improved formula exclusive to Shell designed to seek and destroy engine gunk.
Acts as a barrier to help keep your engine clean and protect it from performance-robbing gunk even better than before.
Helps protect and clean critical engine parts in all three grades of Shell gasoline with the most advanced Shell technology ever.
Helps improve engine performance as you drive.
Has been extensively tested, clocking more than a half-million miles in various engines and vehicles, covering a wide range of conventional, modern turbo-charged, direct fuel- injected and hybrid engines.


Not a placebo.
it sounds like its a good product.
it would make sense for it to give an engine, with some miles on it, better fuel mileage and more power by cleaning it up. and more power usually means less fuel to get up to speed.

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Hmm, I can't find any literature indicating whether Shell V-Power in Canada is Nitrogen enhanced. It talks about cleaning capabilities but nothing about nitrogen.

I wonder.

Either way, I'm on my 3rd tank of the stuff.


http://www.shell.ca/home/content/ca-...power_faq.html
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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well my dad works for shell dealing with all the refinaries in the US and Europe, new zealand, australia i just dont feel like asking

i can ask if somebody really wants to know
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Shell is the only gas I have used in over 10 years. I started using it because they gave me fleet cards with 2% discounts. {The discount really made a difference during the crunch last year}. But I've changed my filters at regular intervals, and have never had a dirty one.
The only dirty one{stopped up}, was on my stepdaughters expy, but she used to get gas where ever it is cheapest. She now works for Murphy so we don't have as many problems with that as we used to.
I've noticed the signs on the pumps, but haven't noticed any difference in performance.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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well my dad works for shell dealing with all the refinaries in the US and Europe, new zealand, australia i just dont feel like asking

i can ask if somebody really wants to know
My stepdad is an OIM for Nobles Drilling. He tells me, that it's just and additive that shell puts in to keep your injectors clean. I've been and always used Shell gas. And I have notice a AMPG increase. I was getting around 19.3MPG. Now, I'm getting around 20.1MPG. I drive the interstate everyday. Around 116 miles aday.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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well my dad works for shell dealing with all the refinaries in the US and Europe, new zealand, australia i just dont feel like asking

i can ask if somebody really wants to know

Yeah go ahead ask him. I've been trying to figure it out. Seeing as Nitrogen has such a low boiling point and is typically in a gaseous state, how would you enrich a liquid such as gasoline with nitrogen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen
Read the second paragraph
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Yeah go ahead ask him. I've been trying to figure it out. Seeing as Nitrogen has such a low boiling point and is typically in a gaseous state, how would you enrich a liquid such as gasoline with nitrogen?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen
Read the second paragraph
Positronic charges bonding to the compound.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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OK OK, heres the process as I know it. The fuel companies and pipeline companies are separate. The fuel companies pay the pipelines to transport the fuel. The pipelines add their own additives for lubrication in the pipe. It winds up in the pipeline company's storage tanks. Then shipped to the delivery facilities where they hold it in a tank. Then a tanker trunk pulls in orders the fuel and fills the truck while adding the additives in a simultaneous process. I have worked in the tank farms for 3 years total and I have never seen them REFILL an additive tank. So since nitrogen decays (even when its bonded with something) what makes it feasible to ENRICH the fuel? How do I know? There are not ANY (non gaseous) Nitrogen tanks in the Charlotte terminals.
 
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