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sorry---I do agree wtht the firefighters' case has merit...from what I heard and saw onthe news, it sounded like they grilled the New Haven lawyers pretty good...
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The OP posted a link to a story about one Hispanic and 20 white firefighters who filed a civil rights case. They contend that New Haven scrapped a promotion exam because too few minorities passed, which violates the civil rights of top-scoring white applicants. My angle was addressing the current propensity to support representatives who support programs that look at quotas more than results.
If people have a problem with programs that place people based on quotas rather than talent, why do we continue to have representatives who perpetuate this type of program?
The fact that this lawsuit has to be brought up at all is a sign of how long this has been a problem. Some of us would like to believe that with time we will move further and further away from programs designed to level the playing field. We need representatives who will work for a day when lawsuits like this are a thing of the past. I don't believe that, for the most part, we have that now.
It may appear to you that my "conscience" just showed up in November. The fact is, the more aware of current events I become, the more concerned I am about the direction we might go. At this point I believe that it's more important to focus on how to correct what is wrong than to center focus on who has taken part in making it that way.
If people have a problem with programs that place people based on quotas rather than talent, why do we continue to have representatives who perpetuate this type of program?
The fact that this lawsuit has to be brought up at all is a sign of how long this has been a problem. Some of us would like to believe that with time we will move further and further away from programs designed to level the playing field. We need representatives who will work for a day when lawsuits like this are a thing of the past. I don't believe that, for the most part, we have that now.
It may appear to you that my "conscience" just showed up in November. The fact is, the more aware of current events I become, the more concerned I am about the direction we might go. At this point I believe that it's more important to focus on how to correct what is wrong than to center focus on who has taken part in making it that way.
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Admissions to many universities has been handled this way for years.
If standardized test scores and GPA were the only criteria, the student body of
the best public universities would have a much different racial composition than society as a whole. Apparently, we can't have that.
What do you tell a kid who scored better on a standardized test than 80% of the admitted students to a public university, but was rejected because there were already too many of his race admitted?
How much solace do we expect that student to take knowing that someone who scored fare lower was accepted in his place?
If standardized test scores and GPA were the only criteria, the student body of
the best public universities would have a much different racial composition than society as a whole. Apparently, we can't have that.
What do you tell a kid who scored better on a standardized test than 80% of the admitted students to a public university, but was rejected because there were already too many of his race admitted?
How much solace do we expect that student to take knowing that someone who scored fare lower was accepted in his place?
If he was rejected by Berkeley or UCLA during the last 5-7 years, it was not because of black freshman enrollment.