01sl,
The accent depends on what part of NY the people came from. Those who live in NY city and towards the manhattan, NJ,CT side have a much stronger accent than those in upstate Rochester/Spencerport/Niagra Falls side.
When I first moved to NC people knew I came from somewhere else with my accent but they never mentioned NY. As far as the Yankee accent it all depends on where you came from in Yankee territory

I think no matter where you grew up you learn the language, slurred sayings, different pronunciations and etc and are used to it. When someone from another part of the states or world comes around its hard to understand them at first because of these differences. I have to admit it took me awhile to adapt to these new words and sayings in NC but I caught on.The same goes for my service days in Texas and Mississippi when I lived there while active, I caught on after awhile. I kid my wife when she lets some southern expression slip out of her northern mouth but shes just learned to adapt and adopted some of these things into her everyday life. My son was born and raised here and when we go to NY to visit they know he is a southern boy by his words and expressions.

It shouldn`t matter how someone talks or expresses themselves(accent) as its who they are.
Sorry to rant I just feel this North/South thing gets out of control sometimes.. as that recent saying goes
"Cant we all just get along"

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I95,
You with your politically correct history and your wonderful Abe Lincoln, who, by the way, was a slave owner. As was Ben Franklin, a Yankee, maybe you've heard of him. How about Ulysses S. Grant? You know, the famous Union Army General credited (wrongly) with ending the war. Didn't he go on to be President too? Also a slave owner.

Before trying to push your whitewashed (or should I say "blackwashed"?) history down our throats you need a reality check.. The war had nothing to do with slavery. It was fought over money and the South’s refusal to be told how to go about making it by the federal government. Grant is quoted as saying if he'd known how the war was going to be abused after Appomatox he never would have signed the treaty. Lincoln didn’t “step in” to end slavery. He seized an opportunity to ensure historical greatness after the blood had already been shed by Southern plantation farmers protecting their land from pillaging Yankees. And speaking of those farmers, most paid their “slaves” a wage. In fact, many STAYED in the south after the war because they knew there would be no jobs for blacks anywhere else.

As for your comment about migrants being the “new slaves”, being a past (and future) migrant employer, I’d be interested to hear some of my “slaves” react to that. Ask Luis if he’s unhappy with his working conditions or the fact that his job on my uncle’s onion farm allows him to send AMERICAN dollars home to his family in Mexico each month. Ask him how many other employers were willing to hire him without references or experience.

I see you make no mention of my charge that you’re brainwashed by the media. I wonder, did you get your historical facts from Larry King the other night or were you too busy studying the Jetsons and the Flintstones?

Actually, I did read the first post. For the sake of It's author I’m sorry you turned an otherwise humorous post into a mud slinging contest by insulting my lineage.

 

Okay guys - we were just finished with all the arguing about Ford Bashing & now this? Let's not make this a place to come & rip each other apart. We are FRIENDS here.
01sl was joking - that's all. Many of us have & do tell jokes that are less than flattering about all ethnic backgrounds, the "opposite sex" or our own country. It's part of our nature - good or bad.
I moved to Buffalo from New York City, specifically the Bronx at the age of 21. To the people here I HAVE AN ACCENT! Same state! I'm still ribbed about it & I use it as an opportunity to say I'm proud of where I was born & raised. We don't even have the same vocabulary in the same state! In NY we drink SODA. In Buffalo, they drink POP! In NY I wore dungarees - here it's blue jeans! Silly differences in semantics yet it identifies me as being an "outsider" to native Buffalonians. Would you believe that when I first moved here & people asked where I was from, their next question was to ask if I carried a gun, knife or other weapon? I was stereotyped as a "thug" because I grew up in SCARY NYC! Then they asked me how often I was mugged, robbed raped or MURDERED! Now really - how ridiculous is that? If it wasn't so pathetic it would have been funny!
All of us are proud of where we were born & that's good! If we find something funny about other parts of the country that's something we have all done & will do. As long as it's not done with malice or hatred, just shrug it off! I tell myself it's because the person poking fun at me is just jealous THEY weren't born in NYC! If you think of it that way, it almost becomes flattering! Try it - what could it hurt?
All I'd like to ask is that we behave as friends with 1 common interest - our trucks! I mean what's next? Arguing about which model of F150 is the best? I sure hope it doesn't go that far! Besides I know the answer to that one - just read my sig! THAT WAS A JOKE, OK? LOL!

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My fellow f150online users,

Please don’t misinterpret my remarks. I’m am in no way a raciest or bigot. I do not condone or support groups like the KKK or Skinheads. In my opinion these people are cowards using Southern heritage and its proud symbols as a means to convey a dated and despicable belief.

When I defend my upbringing it is only because I, like Dixie Truck, am tired of the liberal media portraying us as “backwoods country bumpkins” set in our raciest and separatist ways. I know the war is over. I know the South lost, historically anyway. My anger stems from years of lies and misrepresentation about why the war was fought in the first place. For far too long, the South has had to bear the ill fortune of a practice that was in place all over the country at the time. It is time for THAT to change, NOT our heritage.

I enjoy coming to this site to learn more about our trucks and others experiences with them. I also enjoy reading most of the unrelated topics here in the General forum. My reaction to one uninformed person’s remarks should not be taken as blanket criticism by the rest of the board. The majority of people who frequent this site are, to say the least, friendly folks. I guess I can’t expect everyone to share my Southern charm!

My opinion obviously having been conveyed, I’m ending my involvement in this discussion, as it was not the goal of 01sl when he/she started it.

 

I'd like to jump back in if I may. After reading the original post from 01sl, I elected to a comical reply. As I posted the reply, I95 was posting one also. Look at the posting times and then look at my signature and you will see that I went back in and edited the post due to the "uneducsted idiot" remark that was not there when I finished reading the original post. I am not a bigoted racist, however I do like to tell a joke or two. I visit Florida at least twice annually and an occasional visit to Myrtle Beach, SC and enjoy the attention my accent brings me in the South. Have approx 5 years (50 y/o) to go for my anticipated permanent visit to Florida and don't have any intention on altering my heritage. Keep these flames going, they are interesting!

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fourhour,

Your from the North, you visit the South, you dont live here. It is two different things. Take my word I never had any feelings one way or the other, because, I was not born in that era or anyone else that is alive today. But, the people down here carry that hate from the Civil War. It is experienced by many Northerns, who do not come down here with jobs. They will not hire Northerns! Visiting here for a few days is not the same as actually living here. And for your information 3 quarters of Florida is made up of Northerns and other people from the West Coast and Cuba!

This is a General Discussion area, and it is not strictly for Truck Talk..hell no one bashed 01s1 for his comments on Yankee Accents! I suppose that is okay! Why did he not post the the way they talk from the South,..because, he is from the South..And why come up with this topic anyway. CASE CLOSED!!

onemilmhz, as far as Luis goes, why does Luis live in a single wide with 10 of his cousins, because, your Uncle does not pay Luis enough. Why does Luis have to send Money Back Home. If, you paid him so well, why not let Luis bring his family here, or did you sneak him into the Country. Why not hire Americans???? I have the answer, because, no American would put up with low wages that your Uncle give Luis. Does Luis have FULL MEDICAL COVERAGE?? I don't think so! If, Luis feels so comfortable, why does he travels in packs of five and ten to the stores..Protection from being picked up by the immigration department. So maybe Luis is not all that Happy, but, your Uncle like the Slave Owners convinced Luis is Happy. Your Uncle is probably making good money on his sweat and tears!

No bashing of anyone here..this is the facts of history. Dont blame me, I was not even born than and neither was anyone else on this message board, put the blame on you know who!

Enough said!


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A Footnote to your PROUD SOUTHERN HERITAGE:

Another reason you dislike the Northerns, is because we made you have Civil Rights Laws in the South. The slavery was bad enough, but, in the 1960's and early 70's, Blacks could not even drink at the same water fountains as White People down here, or sit on Buses with you..or eat at the same counters as you..or vote. You get the picture.. Im no Liberal, but, your history down here speaks for itself. Have any of you watched the Movie Mississippi Burning!
They killed Civil Rights Workers from the North, and buried them under a dam, because, they were trying to educate the Black People that they had rights too, just like you good old boys!

Another Sad History Lesson, dont kill the Messenger!!!

 

Just want to say that my part in this thread is the accent differences and the slower cultural life in NC. I was used to the NY life for many years and it was hard to adjust to the NC lifestyle. I didn`t intend nor intend to to bash a Northerner or Southerner and their heritage. I was just pointing out parts of the language differences and that was it. The way this post is going I wanted to make that clear and apologize if it seemed like I was bashing anybody or their heritage. It was not my intention!! I was just pointing out how the differences in talk were from my Northern life and now my Southern life.

Sorry to all that may have taken it the wrong way ..

 

2000FordStyle,

Am I reading what you posted in prior notes wrong:

Quotes by your own words!

"Im in agreement with you in all aspects" (I95)

"People down here are backwards and slow"

"Rest of family has gone back to the North"
(Why????)

"I'd go back in a heartbeat"

How can you be sorry, when you already stuck your foot in your mouth!

 

I95,Yeah I said that about NC life:

I said -"Im in agreement with you in all aspects" (I95) First post you did about the pronunciation of words. I agree that NY people didn`t talk that bad and the ones that did were "uneducated idiots" and that it(NC) was a "Backward" state.

I said
"People down here are backwards and slow"
IN NC Getting things done is a chore and priorities are backwards from NY. Call for a quick repair or have a house built and its well get it when we get around to it.. NY its fast paced and gotten done. Come 4:30 here the priorities turn to getting home not getting a job done. Its just a more laid back situation where NY was fast paced. The whole lifestyle/industrial aspect was a backward step in time to what I was used to.

I said
"Rest of family has gone back to the North"
Brother went back for better paying job, sister who was in FLA. the same.They were also single and left many friends up there in NY to return to. They left for personal reasons not Northern/Southern reasons. Or because of accents or historical issues. I also mentioned parents retired to VA not 50 min away just last yr.

I said
"I'd go back in a heartbeat".
I liked the fast paced life up there. I`d love to get back to all my friends who I knew for over 20 yrs and do things again. Snowmobiling in my own back yard, racing my car at local speedway, LILAC festival. Going miniature golfing, bowling, or movies at 1:00am in the morning. Going back to the numerous shooting ranges within miles of my house which I miss dearly. Skiing at Bristol Mountain 35 min away ,running to Niagra Falls at a moments decision only 1 hr away

I admit I got involved in the accent part and may have mis-worded my quote in saying I`m in agreement with you in all aspects. I meant the accents/pronunciations and slow and backwards culture here in NC and just NC
What I didn`t get involved in with this thread was the whole slavery issue, rebel flag flying, Civil War you had this we didn`t arguement.

I loved NY and I would go back but my decision is personal reasons and not because I can fly a flag or we did or didn`t win the war, or my ancestors did or did not own slaves.

I did mention that the accents amused me and even in NY the other areas of the state did. I also mentioned while in Mississippi and Texas the accents amused me. Not once did I reference peoples heritage or their beliefs and thats what I was trying to convey.

I may have put my foot in my mouth by improperly wording a response but its been about the accent issue and my feelings about life in NC. It has not been about NC or southern residents heritage or history or war outcome.

I`m sorry you took it the wrong way but I don`t believe in tearing down anyones beliefs/views or their family heritage no matter what my feelings for or against what they stood or stand for.


you said:
How can you be sorry, when you already stuck your foot in your mouth!
I am sorry that people may have taken my agreement with accent issues and a different culture in NC. This was a generalization of my life in NY and then my life in NC only not a life in the whole North versus life in the whole South. I am sorry that this may have gotten linked into a cultural aspect of Northern heritage vs Southern heritage as it was not my intention in the least.

With this I will exit this thread before I word something wrong again and give the wrong impression. My apology to the group before still stands now like it did then.



[This message has been edited by 2000FordStyle (edited 02-01-2001).]

 

FordStyle2000,

Do you know what the word QUISLING MEANS??

 

I saw Spencerport mentioned earlier. THANKS!! Does that mean that we're noticed up here??. COOL!. Honestly though, theres no such thing as a "Yankee" accent. I beleive its called a Bostonian or a Long Island accent. Thats what us "Yankees" call it anyway. I have an "Upstate" accent I guess, even though I have no accent at all. I just speak plain old English. Thats how I see it. We visit friends in Mt. Pleasant N.C. once a year and really like it down there. I've only been called a "Yank" once and it was in fun (I thought!!). Yeah, the pace is slower there, but it was refreshing beleive me. Its nice to get away from the fast pace for a while.
Too bad people dwell on the past soo much. I prefer to live for today and look forward to a good tomorrow.
No bashing needed, thank you...

Have a nice day Y'all.. (That was humor!)
Rick.

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Visting is one thing..living here is another..any place looks good on a visit..try living here awhile.

By the way the Good Old Boys call Cary, where most Northerns relocated to:

CONTAMINATED AREA OF RELOCATED YANKEES!!!

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I have lived in alot of different places; born and raised in Ohio, then Texas for 4 months, South Dakota for 6 years, England for 4 years, Wyoming for 2 years, back to Texas for 4 months, Florida for 3 years and now Georgia for 3 years (and soon to be 1 year in Iceland) and I have been to 12 different countries. Well, guess where am going when I retire? I am staying right here in Georgia. I Love Ohio and most of the places I have been but, you just can't beat southern hospitality. Sure things move a little slower down here and the people talk funny (no offense) but you gotta love the weather and the friendliness of the people.



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Well put Cowlady, I'm glad someone can see the humor in this. The funnest part about it is that I got the article from www.countryhumor.com were there are more jokes about southerners than any other background.
Not to start anything up but onemilmhz knows his/her history very well.