F150 is the top selling vehicle of 2008

Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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I take it you still have a rotary dial phone, too. - Og
I just pick the receiver up and make vocal tones to dial the numbers.
If you practice it works much faster. Plus there is no need for a key pad
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BHibbs
Hmm.. This seems to go against what the Media is saying. I thought the Big truck was dead and the reason the Auto makers are crashing is because they're not making battery cars...

The reason automakers are crashing is because 3 key elements:

1. More and more people are buying used cars.
2. People don't have a lot of money.
3. The automakers screwed themselves by offering $5k off deals.

Originally Posted by bjp207
just when I thought manual stopped posting here

dude, get a clue...are we living in a communist nation? are we a primitive society? what the eff does it matter if someone wants heated seats leather and power windows?
Well, I know what you are saying... but it's the opposite for me. The guys who want everything and who got the money, get what they want.

The little guys, like me, have to pay on a truck that I had no choice in getting power windows, locks, v8 engine and an automatic... now that is communist. And that goes for a lot of people that I know of.

Heck, a friend of mine would love a new pickup truck, but first off, he doesn't care for all of the features these new trucks have, and secondly, there are no options in his price range because of all the added junk they've attached.

Sometimes people need to take a step back, and look around them.

The rich/wealthy still win; the middle class and poor do not.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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no, the middle class and poor dont lose. thats a horrible attitude. If they want no options its not like they are forced into buying brand new, buy used.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bjp207
no, the middle class and poor dont lose. thats a horrible attitude. If they want no options its not like they are forced into buying brand new, buy used.
Well, I'm working and I can easily afford a new truck... but I can't justify the need to have all the stuff they include. In fact, I even tried to get them to take out the radio in my XL to take off $250, because I had no use for it, but because it was "included", it couldn't be taken out. So I turned around and tried selling it got no bites, so I took it apart to see what was inside and then threw it in my office garbage can.

Now I'm not trying to be picky... but I just want something simple, no frills, no strings attached type of truck. The new '09 XL's have more features than my truck... and cost more. Why should I have to be forced to be burdened with what Ford "thinks" is what "I" want?

I guess when it comes to Ford and other manufacturers, majority rules. Which is a horrible way to go about business for something that has a high price tag attached.

Back in the day, an automobile when bought, was supposed to be made to the customer's specifications. Now it's the automakers telling the customer what to drive. Which is like me telling you, that you can't live in your own house. Now that's horrible.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
Now it's the automakers telling the customer what to drive.
I can see where you are coming from, but with:

Base
XL
XLT
FX2
FX4
Lariat
Harley-Daivdson
Lightning
King Ranch
Platnium

There's plenty to choose from :beer:
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
What's terrible is that you get what you want... but for the average Joe that wants to have a pickup that is simple and easy to maintain, has to now deal with more junk to go wrong. But then again... most just bring theirs to an overpriced service joint. Which is sad.

So far the only reason my truck has ever been seen in a service shop was due to a warranty related issue. If I didn't have the warranty... guess what? I would have my Haynes book out and the truck apart in my garage. If I can't figure something out, I ask around. Owning a truck is the pride of working on it yourself. A truck has always meant to be a simple but heavy duty piece of machinery -- like a tractor. It was never intended to be used like a car. Furthermore, the truck has been labeled as a great misconception of what it is. Which is why I laugh.

The original truck was designed for the max of 2-3 people, 8 ft bed, a heavy duty engine, frame, suspension, and usually a long throw manual transmission, and was designed to last 500k easily no matter how much you beat on it. Plus there was no power locks, windows, or even a/c. It was meant for picking up or hauling stuff. Hence the name "pickup truck".

These new trucks are like what happened to the Hummer. Sad, but it's a clear example.

Just my 2 cents.
It's not like you are forced to buy a Lariat if you want a new truck, you can buy an XL. Now, you may not want your radio that comes with it or handles to roll your window up and down, but those have become 'standard' over the years after the manufacturers have seen what the majority of people wish that came 'standard', and they are trying to oblige the people who are spending their money on vehicles to get ahead in business.
Also, I have to disagree with you on what trucks were intended for, maybe originally they were only for work use, but then someone figured out that people couldn't afford to buy a car AND a truck, so they tried to mix form and function so they could keep the business. It is a means of transportation that is capable of towing and hauling. Regardless of how comfortable or how many people it can haul, it is a means of transportation.
Get off your high horse, give me my Lariat and if you don't want a loaded one, then don't buy it. You will be in the minority of people who buy new vehicles.
The fact that we had the gas crisis that we had this year, the screwed up economy and a full-size truck is still the best-seller? Wow, that's amazing, and is a real testament to what people feel like they absolutely need.
 
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