Sadly it's a partisan issue. Most Republicans have been trained to resist and deny.
Like most republicans thought the fundamentals of our economy were strong until it smashed into a wall....they will not believe in global warming and climate change until it burns their *** and wipes out their family.

There is a balance and cycle....man dramatically raises one of the variables in the balance....balance is not affected?

 

It's not just us right wing loons on F150....
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6
Just a little food for thought. Now I'm going to eat some horrible methane producing cow!

 

I am not saying it is wrong to NOT believe in Global Warming or Global Climate Change. I am saying that the end result of what people pushing a global warming agenda is not a bad thing.

Barring validity of Global Warming, there is still an energy crisis. Petroleum is a non replinishable resource. Additionally, it is a pollutant. While it may not cause Global Warming or even Global Climate Change, there *IS* evidence that products produced by the burning of certain fossil fuels and the fossil fuels themselves, can have an adverse impact on life. Above and beyond that, once they are gone, they are gone for good.

And, frankly, I dont think this is a bi-partisan issue. I was a republican for 20 years. The only reason I am not anymore is because of the rampant overtake of the Republican party by religious ideology. Seperate out the "push Christian God down everyones throat" and I still have very strong Paleo Conservative values.

I am not saying electric vehicles are the answer, I am not saying I know the answer. What I am saying is we have lived long enough under a tyrannical energy system that was created, strengthened by John D Rockefellar. Many decades of gone by where research of alternative fuels were supressed because of special interest. I would imagine had Henry Ford been *able*, and not inhibited by the oil industry, we would be a lot further than what we are today. Imagine if his research in Steam and Electric vehicles had continued for the past 80 years. What are the possibilities we would have today for decent powered vehicles that do not run on fossil fuels.

A good source of insight into this is "The Prize" which is a documentary on JDR and Standard Oil, the oil industry, and everything that entails for the past 100+ years.

I dont believe Global Warming or Global Climate Change is anything new. I think its been around since micro-organisms ruled the earth. I think more pollutants have been dumped into the air by volcanos and space sources collisions. However, removing the dependancy and not adding to what is natural seems like a really good idea to me.

 

I like how global warming turns political.

Liberals - the sky is falling

Conservatives - Nothing to see here move along

Our planet goes thur cycles and yes I'm sure man is making a slight impact on it. But if the planet is going into a heating trend or an ice age there is not a DAMN thing we can do to stop it just adapt like humans do.

 

I wish people that blame global warming on mankind would do some actual research and come to their own conclusions. The earth naturally puts off more carbon on it's own than mankind could even contemplate. I found this out while studying natural resources a few years ago so I don't have a link. Bottom line is that we as humans have basically no control over our temperature. Like said before there is proof of plant life in places on earth that currently no plant life could exist do to being too cold. To this date there is no solid evidence that man is causing any warming at all, it is just mere speculation. To top it off there are so many weather stations in bad locations that the data which is collected should be useless but the global warming guys still use it.

At the same time I think we need to clean up our environment. Clean air, recycling and so on is good. But we do not need to make changes for the sake of global warming!! I don't think we should spend millions/billions for something that we cannot control.

I drive my F150 everyday and don’t feel guilty at all. I might not need a truck everyday but there are many times a year that a car isn’t going to cut it. If I were to purchase a secondary economy car it would probably be worse for the environment. Just think of all the pollutants from all of the parts that get manufactured that go into the economy car. Then when the truck and car are worn out I’m putting 2 cars into the junk yard instead of just 1.

 

Call it Global Warming or Climate Change or whatever you want, it's a cash cow. We're all going to be paying for it too. Sad considering it's so flawed.

 

You're exactly right. I mean it has done extremely well for ALORE; have you seen that guy lately. He has to put off more methane than your average dairy cow!

 

Has man had an impact on the earth? Sure... I mean, when you think about the fact that scientists believe over 50 BILLION people have lived on the earth over the span of mankind, and 6 Billion people live here now. I think it's silly to think 6 Billion people can be on a planet, and not have some effect on it.

I don't know for sure (and neither do the experts) as to whether our industrial and day to day practices are detrimental to the earth and ourselves. However, I think it's foolish to think that we've had no impact, and close-minded to beliee it's not worth investigating and taking steps to reduce our impact- minimal or as large as it may be.

I don't think the problem is in trying. We're smart to look for better ways of doing things. We'd be stupid not to try to improve, even if it costs money to do so.

If you don't think we need to improve the planet, I challenge you to sit a glass outside whiel it's raining, and go back and drink it once it's full.

If you're so sure there's no risk- drink up.

If you're like me, and think we need to improve- at least go get the Brita Pitcher, and filter it first.

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We used to drink rainwater when I lived in the country... Unfiltered, right off a tin roof (along with the bird mess, and anything else that was on the roof), down the gutter (Along with any mouse dropping that may have been in teh gutters), and into a huge rain barrell (with who knows what kind of parasites swimming/living in it.

Knowing what I know now, you couldn't pay me to do that again...

Not without at least boiling it first...

I was about 4th grade the first time I heard about the topic: "Acid Rain: Poison from the sky". That was the day I stopped drinking rain water at my aunt's house.

Then again, she lived to be 90 years old, cooked with the thickest lard you can imagine, survived breast cancer (and never stopped smoking), and was still mowing her own lawn at 80 (Snapper Riding mower), and triming up with the push mower- but spent her last 5 - 6 years succumbing to Alzhiemers... Aside from her last years, I consider that a nice run...

Hmm, screw the canola oil and bottled water- maybe I should drink more rainwater and cook with shortening/lard...

I'll take 85 strong years, over 72 trying to live healthier.

**- I know what you're thinking- and yes, I mowed the lawn for her until I left home in 1987. She had a 5 - 6 year break when I was coming up, and had my own lan business. But, when I left for the Army, she picked it back up, mowing her large lawn, and her neighbors) and started doing it herself again, from 1987 - 1996, when her crackhead nephew *closest relative* (I was her great-nephew) swooped in, sold all her stuff (without anyone's knowledge, until it was almost all over) and put her in a nursing home at age 81-82, while she was still physically healthy (She'd started showing signs of Alzheimer's/Dimentia by then).

So no, there's no way would I let an 80 year old relative mow their own grass (especially 2+ acres) had I been nearby.

 

And the noxious gas is expelled from the hole under his nose.

 

You must mean people like David Suzuki. Awhile back he did a cross Canada tour preaching his rhetoric which probably gave Algore a woody. What did he do when he got back to Vancouver? Jumped out of his huge diesel tour bus he drove across Canada and back and hopped on a bike to ride the last couple kilometers. Now that's practicing what you preach! Worst part is he got cheered like he rode the dam thing all the way from Newfoundland.

 

You're on to something here. Considering all the crap he spews out his pie hole, I bet it does smell like his butt hole!

 

I majored in Chemistry in college and grew up wanting to be an Oceanographer so I have done actual research on the topic.

The earth is a closed balanced system. There are many variables involved in the balance. Too much fresh water or not enough in the ocean will change natural water currents which affect weather patterns....Too much of one or several elements (compounds) in the atmosphere (sun shield) can change the way it protects life from the sun...
For centuries the planet did what it did without much effect from man.
We have cleared continent size areas of trees and jungles that make oxygen and clean the air.
To say we have no effect on the planet at all is also arrogant speculation.
Cancer, diabetes, asthma and autism are on a sharp rise. Is it environmental?
I don't know.

If believers are wrong we will end up with a cleaner environment.
If non believers are wrong it could change life as we know it or eventually wipe it out.

 

I drink rain water and water from tanks and streams when we go on extended hunting trips and camping trips. I haven't ever gotten sick from it, and I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

What a bunch of trash people here are spewing. More and more scientists are comming clean about the truth. The truth is that man can not change the environment. How is
.54% carbon in the atmosphere causing a problem? That is just stupid. And the environmentalist like to scare us by saying that the deniers want dirty water and dirty air. What a crock of crap. No one wants dirty anything. The fact is that global warming is a cash cow for liberals to control how we think, what we do, what we drive, and advance the socialist agenda. There is no good science in the man made global warming agenda. The earth has been getting cooler since 1998. Mars and neptune have been getting warmer at the same rate as earth was. Last I checked, mars and neptune don't have man made factories there. Get some commen sense involved here. The stupidity in global warming will destroy the nations economy. Oh.. BTW.. why don't you hear anything about the record ice formations in the artic circle this year?

 

The voice is different but the breath is still the same.