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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 02:39 AM
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hellz yeah i'm on a mission to keep this one going forever lol and i also want to say that i support ALL police officers... even the ones who have written me tickets
 
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 02:55 AM
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Sweet !


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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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It's like Zombieland around here. This is the second long dead thread I've seen come back to life today.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Something I’ve been thinking about.

1. I know for a fact that with my rifle and pistol lasers at least my red ones both American made crimson trace and laser max they suck *** when on a flat black surface. My green one for my rifle doesn’t really seem to mind the color differences so much.
2. High quality laser/radar detector if there’s such a thing both front and back windows.
3. Remove or spray all shiny objects on the car and as far as the plates cover them with the ugly smoked plastic covers we’ve all seen.
4. Flat black no gloss for the whole vehicle with dark non reflect window tint. Rhino liner should work just fine.
5. Rims and I mean every thing flat blacked out.
6. I would think this would help until you got way close for the laser to get a descent reading by which point your laser detector should be picking up the single way before hopefully.


I’ve got a new job that is a 214mile round trip out in the bfe of north western Nevada. The HP doesn’t patrol it to much but I know it’s only a matter of time. There nice long straight interstates with tons of room to stretch a vehicles legs.
My boss says he’s been driving 85 to 100 for over 2 years now with no problems and says detectors are stupid but I don’t think he’s gotten a huge nasty ticket yet.

I was thinking about doing the above over time to a POS focus or other little economy box car.

What do you guys think?
 

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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Don't forget to cover those shiny things on the sides of the front. You know the ones that have the bright stuff coming out at night. Also don't forget the large shiny object in front of your face when you are driving. Don't forget to cover the fan, and radiator.

Lidar is not in the visible range of light. It is not affected by the color or shine of the object it is hitting against. Even if it was effected by the different objects, there are parts of your vehicle that you can not cover that work very well as reflectors, such as your headlights, windshield, and radiator. Light reflects off everything, otherwise we would not be able to see it unless it was producing its own light.

If you were able to obtain radar absorbing paint, like that used on the F-117 then you might (but probably not) delay the response of a radar. The shape of the vehicle still has enough surface directing the radar back that the paint can not absorb it all. That is why the F-117 has the odd shape (it's primary radar reducing feature), to deflect radar away from the source. The paint simply absorbs a small amount of the radar energy, but not enough to appreciably affect the signature. If you took the paint from an F-117 and painted a B-52 with it, it would do little to affect the visibility of the aircraft.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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My LEO / RD story.

I lived in Atlanta & was working in Lake Charles, LA. Hopped on I-10 about 1 mile from work & started home. About 11PM I'm driving thru lower MS, coffee, cigar and the cruise set on, well, er, ah, well above the speed limit. No traffic, clear weather, too early for the drunks, etc. I come around a long sweeping left curve & see a car in the breakdown lane. I see the "State Trooper" conspicuity tape, hit the brakes & the V-1 goes off full scream and his lights come on.

I hit the brakes harder, put on the signal and pull over in front of the trooper. He just idles up behind me, doesn't even have to pull out in the road. I turn off the van, emergency flashers, toss keys on dash board, roll down the window and put both hands on the wheel.

He comes up, does the flashlight thing into the back of the van, approaches the window.

Me: Good evening officer.
Him: I need to see your license.

Me: Yessir, it's in my right hip pocket
Him: GO ahead.

Him: You know why I pulled you over tonight?
Me: Yessir, I have a pretty good idea.

Him: I clocked you at 81 mph.
Me: Yessir, you did (thinking well at least I scrubbed a bunch off before he hit the button)

Him: What's the hurry?
Me: I live in ATL, work in LC & I only get home once a month & tonight's the night!

Him: Is this a company vehicle?
Me: No sir.

Him: I'll be right back.
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Him: Mr. SDG, I'm only going to give you a warning tonight, but you have to slow it down.
Me: Yessir!

I did, too. Until I got out of Mississippi!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Good point on the radar but I though alot of the HP's where using laser now days?? Thanks for the info on the paint. I guess one would have to make a very funny looking body to help with the radar lol. I would think the laser part of things would be in the right direction of thought.
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Don't forget to cover those shiny things on the sides of the front. You know the ones that have the bright stuff coming out at night. Also don't forget the large shiny object in front of your face when you are driving. Don't forget to cover the fan, and radiator.

Lidar is not in the visible range of light. It is not affected by the color or shine of the object it is hitting against. Even if it was effected by the different objects, there are parts of your vehicle that you can not cover that work very well as reflectors, such as your headlights, windshield, and radiator. Light reflects off everything, otherwise we would not be able to see it unless it was producing its own light.

If you were able to obtain radar absorbing paint, like that used on the F-117 then you might (but probably not) delay the response of a radar. The shape of the vehicle still has enough surface directing the radar back that the paint can not absorb it all. That is why the F-117 has the odd shape (it's primary radar reducing feature), to deflect radar away from the source. The paint simply absorbs a small amount of the radar energy, but not enough to appreciably affect the signature. If you took the paint from an F-117 and painted a B-52 with it, it would do little to affect the visibility of the aircraft.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nonwoven29
Good point on the radar but I though alot of the HP's where using laser now days??
The thing with Lidar is it has a very accurate beam. I don't remember the exact specs but it was something like at 500 feet the beam was 6' across. The officer must be able to aim at a specific target. Some HP are using them others not so much. A lot depends on the area they are working. Unless there has been huge improvements in the systems, they have to be able to shoot it out the window. If there aren't too many places where the trooper can park perpendicular to the road then Lidar is not very useful. This doesn't rule out other methods, like having a trooper standing on the side of the road while his partners are parked down behind some trees farther down the highway.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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Discounting the fact that speeding usually is breaking the law (believe it or not, there are places in the US where the speed limit is based on traffic, not what is posted) and breaking the law is wrong (now there's a concept!), little is gained by speeding. In town, all you're are going to do is get to the red light sooner, burning more gas in the process, and wearing out your brakes sooner when you have to keep hitting them at each light.

On the highway, driving 120 miles at a speed limit of 60 mph will take two hours (assuming no traffic or weather delays). At 65 mph, you will knock roughly 9 minutes off that time. At 70 mph, you will save roughly 17 minutes. All this is assuming traffic will allow you to go that fast. Is the risk of a ticket really worth what little time you're saving?

If the speed limit is 75 mph (as it is on the rural Interstates in AZ), it would take 1.6 hours to go 120 miles. At 80 mph, you shave only 6 minutes off your time. At 85 mph, it's only 11 1/2 minutes. Big, fat, hairy deal!

Then there is the wear and tear you are putting on your vehicle, increased gas consumption, shortened tire life from the increased heat on them, etc. Would you rather have a blowout at the speed limit or at 10 or more mph over the limit? Ever have a ball joint fail? I had one do so at an intersection doing 5 mph. That was scary enough, thank you very much! Wheel bearings wear out faster the faster you go. I would think the sight of your front tire while passing it at 85 mph would be a tad unnerving.

At 85 mph, it doesn't matter if you hit Bambi or Bossy; you will probably die.

Before I grew up, I used to make the 400 mile trip from Tempe, AZ to Escondido, CA driving 5 mph over the speed limit (the max speed limit in AZ is 75 mph and in CA, it's 70 mph). I calculated the most I was saving was 20 minutes off the 5 1/2 - 6 hour trip was only 20 minutes. Usually, it was only 10 minutes or less because of traffic. I was constantly on the look out for "the man."

After I grew up and started doing the speed limit, the first thing I noticed was I wasn't as tired as I had been when I got to the end of the 400 miles. The constant vigil for the gendarmes was more tiring than I had realized. The other thing I noticed was I was spending less at the pump. I didn't keep track of it but I probably saved $10 to $20 on gas for the 800 mile trip (this was quite a few years ago).

So even if the concept of right and wrong is lost on you, there plenty of other good reasons not to speed.

There are bad cops out there (I've encountered a few) but the vast majority are professionals out there trying to make a living like the rest of us do or did (I'm retired). I worked third shift for 5 1/2 years at a convenience store in a very bad neighborhood after I retired the first time. I got to know many of Tempe's finest very well. They were very professional. I've been stopped a few times by the Highway Patrols of AZ and CA for non-speeding issues (burned out lights, etc.; one CA officer was making sure I wasn't drunk when I forgot to turn on my headlights for a bit leaving a roadside rest area on an incredibly bright moon lit night) and every time, they were courteous and friendly, same as I was. If any of you are having frequent problems with the police hassling you, mayhap there is a reason.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:53 AM
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I don't speed for a couple of reasons. 1) Don't want to put the extra wear and tear on my truck. 2) Not worth a ticket. 3) Better MPG.

I've never been pulled over for anything but when I was younger I was with my grandpa a couple of times he got pulled over and never had a problem with the cops. If you're respectful to them they don't seem to give you a hard time. I believe I was with him 3 times he got pulled over, for speeding 2 times and one time he was taking a trailer to his house one of his friends gave him that had a 20+ year old plate on it. All 3 of those times my grandpa knew he was in the wrong and was cooperative with the cops and all he ever got was a warning.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SafetyDaveG
My LEO / RD story.

I lived in Atlanta & was working in Lake Charles, LA. Hopped on I-10 about 1 mile from work & started home. About 11PM I'm driving thru lower MS, coffee, cigar and the cruise set on, well, er, ah, well above the speed limit. No traffic, clear weather, too early for the drunks, etc. I come around a long sweeping left curve & see a car in the breakdown lane. I see the "State Trooper" conspicuity tape, hit the brakes & the V-1 goes off full scream and his lights come on.


I did, too. Until I got out of Mississippi!
Exactly where in MS? I'm from the Gulf coast there and I know just about every HP officer south of hattiesburg.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Since I've been setting my cruise control to exactly 4 mph over the limit (verified by GPS), I've never been stopped. I *HAVE* been stopped for 6 over.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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i'm a 19 year old and i still have some of that "invincibility" in me, so i will admit that i do speed. not really to get anywhere faster, but because i really do like going fast (only on empty roads though. i will never speed if it would put someone else at risk) not to mention i go to texas a&m and anybody that has driven on highway 6 in recent years knows about those infamous highway patrols. they are the real reason i have my radar. i NEVER use my radar so i can speed though. i use it because i speed without knowing it and its there to remind me to slow it down from time to time
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Discounting the fact that speeding usually is breaking the law (believe it or not, there are places in the US where the speed limit is based on traffic, not what is posted) and breaking the law is wrong (now there's a concept!), little is gained by speeding.

On the highway, driving 120 miles at a speed limit of 60 mph will take two hours (assuming no traffic or weather delays). At 65 mph, you will knock roughly 9 minutes off that time. At 70 mph, you will save roughly 17 minutes. All this is assuming traffic will allow you to go that fast. Is the risk of a ticket really worth what little time you're saving?

If the speed limit is 75 mph (as it is on the rural Interstates in AZ), it would take 1.6 hours to go 120 miles. At 80 mph, you shave only 6 minutes off your time. At 85 mph, it's only 11 1/2 minutes. Big, fat, hairy deal!
If you drive that distance every day, and you don't live somewhere where they do set speed limits realistically, speeding does add up.

If you do 80 vs. 60 and save a 1/2 hour every day and work say 200 days a year, that's 100 hours extra every year, which is over 2 weeks of extra time per year.

I used to drive 84 miles round trip a day. Normal (for me) in traffic driving was around two hours a day. I once did it at the speed limit and it took an hour & 35 minutes one way. I did that for a few years, so the time differential is huge.

And I have hit bambi, luckily I wasn't doing 80
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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I dont speed to just get there faster i make a trip to dfw pretty frequently and to me it is so boring cruising down the interstate at 70 mph. Call me stupid but id rather truck along at 75-85. Here in texas the roads are flat and you can see two or three miles down the road and there isnt that many cars either. Just got back from that trip and i passed two state troopers doing 80 and once at 83 and they never moved from there spot where they were running radar. Alot of times its safer to run at faster speeds with the traffic then having 8 to 10 cars blowing by you at 15 mph faster.Apparently the texas dps troopers dont see a problem with it either. A few months ago i was on a 2 lane country road and i saw a chance at passing a car and pulled out and punched it and there was a dps sitting there with the radar on, i passed him about 90 mph and he just flashed his lights at me, he knew i was passing so didnt even bother with me. Thats one thing that sucks on f150's they will cruise at 85 and 90 and you don't even realize how fast you are driving.
 
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