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First, check out this page:
http://www.netwurx.net/~2lbgil/ford.html
I sent him an e-mail basically stating that most of the things he cites could have been discovered during a test drive, and he could have walked away without buying the truck.
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His response:
Opinions have been running 10-1 against yours. I did not drive the
vehicle prior to leasing....should I after the results I had with the
95?, which I admit I should have purchased. The buyer has to have some
faith in the company or they would not think about buying their product.
For your information I lease all of my trucks..excuse me the 98 isn't a
truck. A truck is a working vehicle not a auto with a box on the back.
Most buyers these days do not use a truck for the purpose it was
designed for. Can I guess that you sell Ford's?
My page on this Ford? was put on the Internet to make a point and
generate discussion on "Did Ford blow it with the F-150"?
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My response:
> Opinions have been running 10-1 against yours. I did not drive the
> vehicle prior to leasing....should I after the results I had with the
> 95?, which I admit I should have purchased. The buyer has to have some
> faith in the company or they would not think about buying their product.
Of course you should test drive the vehicle first. I don't care if I've
been buying fords for 20 years, I would still test drive each one. You
expect the car maker to read your mind, and keep/add options that appeal to
you? Of course not. Vehicles are changed every year. It was your own
ignorance that caused you to get stuck with a truck you didn't like. If you
had taken an extra hour to check out the vehicle first, you could be driving
a vehicle that DOES fit your needs instead of the one you have.
> For your information I lease all of my trucks..excuse me the 98 isn't a
> truck. A truck is a working vehicle not a auto with a box on the back.
> Most buyers these days do not use a truck for the purpose it was
> designed for.
The majority of your complaints are "cosmetic" things. If you want a truck
for "the purpose it was designed for", then those nicities shouldn't matter
to you.
> Can I guess that you sell Ford's?
No, I do not sell Fords. I have only owned Honda vehicles until my latest
purchase, a 1999 F-150. I sent the e-mail to you because you have no right
to complain about the vehicle, when you put yourself in this situation. A
test drive could have easily told you everything you liked/didn't like about
the vehicle.
> My page on this Ford? was put on the Internet to make a point and
> generate discussion on "Did Ford blow it with the F-150"?
If they did blow it, and you had taken the time to do some research and a
test drive, you could have switched to a Chevy or Dodge and been happy.
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Oh well. I just think it's humorous, and good reading, so I posted it.
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
http://www.netwurx.net/~2lbgil/ford.html
I sent him an e-mail basically stating that most of the things he cites could have been discovered during a test drive, and he could have walked away without buying the truck.
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His response:
Opinions have been running 10-1 against yours. I did not drive the
vehicle prior to leasing....should I after the results I had with the
95?, which I admit I should have purchased. The buyer has to have some
faith in the company or they would not think about buying their product.
For your information I lease all of my trucks..excuse me the 98 isn't a
truck. A truck is a working vehicle not a auto with a box on the back.
Most buyers these days do not use a truck for the purpose it was
designed for. Can I guess that you sell Ford's?
My page on this Ford? was put on the Internet to make a point and
generate discussion on "Did Ford blow it with the F-150"?
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My response:
> Opinions have been running 10-1 against yours. I did not drive the
> vehicle prior to leasing....should I after the results I had with the
> 95?, which I admit I should have purchased. The buyer has to have some
> faith in the company or they would not think about buying their product.
Of course you should test drive the vehicle first. I don't care if I've
been buying fords for 20 years, I would still test drive each one. You
expect the car maker to read your mind, and keep/add options that appeal to
you? Of course not. Vehicles are changed every year. It was your own
ignorance that caused you to get stuck with a truck you didn't like. If you
had taken an extra hour to check out the vehicle first, you could be driving
a vehicle that DOES fit your needs instead of the one you have.
> For your information I lease all of my trucks..excuse me the 98 isn't a
> truck. A truck is a working vehicle not a auto with a box on the back.
> Most buyers these days do not use a truck for the purpose it was
> designed for.
The majority of your complaints are "cosmetic" things. If you want a truck
for "the purpose it was designed for", then those nicities shouldn't matter
to you.
> Can I guess that you sell Ford's?
No, I do not sell Fords. I have only owned Honda vehicles until my latest
purchase, a 1999 F-150. I sent the e-mail to you because you have no right
to complain about the vehicle, when you put yourself in this situation. A
test drive could have easily told you everything you liked/didn't like about
the vehicle.
> My page on this Ford? was put on the Internet to make a point and
> generate discussion on "Did Ford blow it with the F-150"?
If they did blow it, and you had taken the time to do some research and a
test drive, you could have switched to a Chevy or Dodge and been happy.
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Oh well. I just think it's humorous, and good reading, so I posted it.
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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From: Bradenton, Fl. USA
How did you get his e-mail address? I want a crack at this guy. What a flaming moron!!!
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'99 XLT S/C 4.6 Auto 3.55 LS Oxford White,Orlando appearance package, trailer tow package, keyless entry, A.R.E. Hard tonneau, ventvisors and bug guard all painted to match, limo tint, 5 spoke aluminum wheels, Kenwood 6 Disc, black Back Country nerfs, Buccaneers front license plate! I Luv it!
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'99 XLT S/C 4.6 Auto 3.55 LS Oxford White,Orlando appearance package, trailer tow package, keyless entry, A.R.E. Hard tonneau, ventvisors and bug guard all painted to match, limo tint, 5 spoke aluminum wheels, Kenwood 6 Disc, black Back Country nerfs, Buccaneers front license plate! I Luv it!
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Take the ford.html off the end, and go to his main "Home Page"
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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From: West Sacramento, CA
Here is my reply to his page, I really hope I get a response.
Dear Sir,
While I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, I don't agree with yours. From what I can see, you ordered or purchased a truck for the sole purpose of towing a boat, didn't it occur to you that if you are going to tow something you might want to purchase a truck with the biggest engine and towing package available? Obviously your "coveted" 95 F150 had the 5.8L engine in it, yet you didn't think about how you would be using this truck and make choices from there? As for the center console, if I am not mistaken (and you can bet I am not), there is a locking system on the console that prevents it from "flipping backwards". I personally have put large amounts of pressure on my center console with no ill effects what so ever.
You do have one legitimate grip about the V8's in the newer Ford trucks, the gas mileage does and I quote you on this "SUCK". I personally have invested a large amount of time in to tracking fuel mileage on my truck and concur with you on this single point.
As for you other points, they seem to be primarily problems that you should have found on a test drive. I assume you did test drive you vehicle before purchasing it. I can't imagine a person with obvious experience in trucks not taking the few minutes it would have taken to get a feel for the vehicle and the power of the engine. I really hope you didn't rely on a sales person to tell you this was the vehicle for you.
I would imagine you will simply discard this message and not find it worth a reply since it is obvious you are so staunchly against the new style F150's. If you don't, please reply back, I am interested in the process you went through when evaluating your vehicle.
Randy
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'98 XLT SC, 4.2V6, 4spd Auto, BugflectorII, 50th Aniversery Flooor Mats, K&N Filter, Hard Tonneau Cover, Billet Grill and Insert, Sony CDX-6850 Head Unit, Soundstream Rubicon 405 Amp, JBL GTO 5x7's All 4 Doors, Qlogic 8" sub-enclosure with Kicker Punch XLC Woofer,SuperBrite Bulb Replacements...and More Mods to Come
http://206.170.51.68/truck
Dear Sir,
While I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, I don't agree with yours. From what I can see, you ordered or purchased a truck for the sole purpose of towing a boat, didn't it occur to you that if you are going to tow something you might want to purchase a truck with the biggest engine and towing package available? Obviously your "coveted" 95 F150 had the 5.8L engine in it, yet you didn't think about how you would be using this truck and make choices from there? As for the center console, if I am not mistaken (and you can bet I am not), there is a locking system on the console that prevents it from "flipping backwards". I personally have put large amounts of pressure on my center console with no ill effects what so ever.
You do have one legitimate grip about the V8's in the newer Ford trucks, the gas mileage does and I quote you on this "SUCK". I personally have invested a large amount of time in to tracking fuel mileage on my truck and concur with you on this single point.
As for you other points, they seem to be primarily problems that you should have found on a test drive. I assume you did test drive you vehicle before purchasing it. I can't imagine a person with obvious experience in trucks not taking the few minutes it would have taken to get a feel for the vehicle and the power of the engine. I really hope you didn't rely on a sales person to tell you this was the vehicle for you.
I would imagine you will simply discard this message and not find it worth a reply since it is obvious you are so staunchly against the new style F150's. If you don't, please reply back, I am interested in the process you went through when evaluating your vehicle.
Randy
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'98 XLT SC, 4.2V6, 4spd Auto, BugflectorII, 50th Aniversery Flooor Mats, K&N Filter, Hard Tonneau Cover, Billet Grill and Insert, Sony CDX-6850 Head Unit, Soundstream Rubicon 405 Amp, JBL GTO 5x7's All 4 Doors, Qlogic 8" sub-enclosure with Kicker Punch XLC Woofer,SuperBrite Bulb Replacements...and More Mods to Come
http://206.170.51.68/truck
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I got a response:
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Apparantly your $.02 opinion is all that it is worth. Get your own
page to express your opinion and keep off my E;mail.............. End of
subject.
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His spelling and grammar tell me all I need to know. I have seen NOTHING come from him that wasn't loaded with errors.
Ok. Everyone e-mail him to annoy him!
2lbgil@netwurx.net
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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Apparantly your $.02 opinion is all that it is worth. Get your own
page to express your opinion and keep off my E;mail.............. End of
subject.
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His spelling and grammar tell me all I need to know. I have seen NOTHING come from him that wasn't loaded with errors.
Ok. Everyone e-mail him to annoy him!
2lbgil@netwurx.net
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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From: Bloomington MN
If you're going to get on people about their spelling and grammar (not to mention syntax and composition), you are going to have no problem keeping very busy. Having said that, however, this guy really does need some fresh glue.
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Ben Mc.----'99 XLT 5.4 SC SB ORP Dk. Red/Dk. Grey----Fact. Cab Steps/Tonneau/Slider----Straight Duals, Superchip, Airaid/KN (non-sag), Ungo Autostart/Keyless Remote, Prime Designs Air/Bug Deflector, Weathertech Wind/Rain Deflecters----PPI 4240 Amp,McIntosh 6x9's w/crossovers front, Polk DB 5.25's rear---Tuessssdayyyy Affffternoooooon----gotta love it!
[This message has been edited by dirlton (edited 08-12-1999).]
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Ben Mc.----'99 XLT 5.4 SC SB ORP Dk. Red/Dk. Grey----Fact. Cab Steps/Tonneau/Slider----Straight Duals, Superchip, Airaid/KN (non-sag), Ungo Autostart/Keyless Remote, Prime Designs Air/Bug Deflector, Weathertech Wind/Rain Deflecters----PPI 4240 Amp,McIntosh 6x9's w/crossovers front, Polk DB 5.25's rear---Tuessssdayyyy Affffternoooooon----gotta love it!
[This message has been edited by dirlton (edited 08-12-1999).]
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Everyone makes occasional mistakes. You can tell when people really just don't know how to compose sentences.
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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From: Oklahoma City
Well if the new F150's suck so much why has Ford sold over 2 million of them?
Why are they the #1 selling vehicle in the world?
Why is this guy such a dumba$$ ?
whats the answer ?
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99 XLT 5.4l reg cab
5 star larait style wheels
Toreador red 2tone
3.55 gears
255/70/16 OWL
Delta toolbox
Eclipse 5340 cd player
Memphis ARCS50 component speakers (excellent sound)
Sherwood amp
subwoofer coming soon
More mods as funds become avalible.
Why are they the #1 selling vehicle in the world?
Why is this guy such a dumba$$ ?
whats the answer ?
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99 XLT 5.4l reg cab
5 star larait style wheels
Toreador red 2tone
3.55 gears
255/70/16 OWL
Delta toolbox
Eclipse 5340 cd player
Memphis ARCS50 component speakers (excellent sound)
Sherwood amp
subwoofer coming soon
More mods as funds become avalible.
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From: Arlington, Texas
Well I read what he said, he's an idiot. Really don't understand people like that. Kind of humorous, but oh well, he's a flake, I'll leave it at that.
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Stone Cold, Black 98 Styleside S/C F150 4x4 0RP 5.4 3.55ls, Magnum bug shield,Grizzly
roll bar,2 Baja lights, 4 165 watt KC lights (I can turn night into day), Manik grille guard,Westin step bars,Sonic aluminum treadplate 36" tool box, Flowmaster dual exhaust, K/N air filter, 265/75/16 BFG AT/s, American Racing Baja wheels and a F150 Online sticker. More to come for the Attention Getter: Ramsey winch will be on it real soon (hopefully), 2 more KC lights, Rancho shocks. If you would like to see pics, email me at mudder46@hotmail.com or go to http://www.mindspring.com/~acbradley/index2a.html
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Stone Cold, Black 98 Styleside S/C F150 4x4 0RP 5.4 3.55ls, Magnum bug shield,Grizzly
roll bar,2 Baja lights, 4 165 watt KC lights (I can turn night into day), Manik grille guard,Westin step bars,Sonic aluminum treadplate 36" tool box, Flowmaster dual exhaust, K/N air filter, 265/75/16 BFG AT/s, American Racing Baja wheels and a F150 Online sticker. More to come for the Attention Getter: Ramsey winch will be on it real soon (hopefully), 2 more KC lights, Rancho shocks. If you would like to see pics, email me at mudder46@hotmail.com or go to http://www.mindspring.com/~acbradley/index2a.html
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From: Flowery Branch GA
Your right, he is a idiot. Not a good way to
get you point across. He is right about the console though, its a pain.
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White 1999 F150 4X4 XLT Regular Cab, 5.4L Short bed, 373 Rear, Towing & Off Road Pkg, 6 Disk CD, Keyless Entry
Mods Include : Superchip, Flowmaster exhaust, Chrome bed rails and Smittybilt nerfs, Full window tint,
K&N filter, Ventshade window deflectors. Triton boats tag on front - BASS sticker in rear glass
get you point across. He is right about the console though, its a pain.
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White 1999 F150 4X4 XLT Regular Cab, 5.4L Short bed, 373 Rear, Towing & Off Road Pkg, 6 Disk CD, Keyless Entry
Mods Include : Superchip, Flowmaster exhaust, Chrome bed rails and Smittybilt nerfs, Full window tint,
K&N filter, Ventshade window deflectors. Triton boats tag on front - BASS sticker in rear glass
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I've never had any problems with my console. It locks in the up or down position. I hear that on the 97's it didn't lock, which would be a problem.
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC
1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS
Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover
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From: Wilmington, NC
I found that guy's site quite a while ago and posted to him my solution for the fliping console. I keep the middle seatbelt straped over it. Works for me and my 5 year old can scoot between the seats without dumping my drink. Anyway's he never responded.
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97F150 XLT SC 4x4 Flairside 4.6 V8 5sp Dk Toreador Red, 3.55LS
ARE tonneau cover, p255/70rx16 tires (came w/235), Superchip
Pioneer CD w/4 Polk Speakers & Clarion APA5240amp, skid plates
bed liner, side window deflectors, reese hitch, K&N air filter
40s-2chamber Flowmaster, Bosch +4 spark plugs, rustproofing
Better Built Stainless nerf bars
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97F150 XLT SC 4x4 Flairside 4.6 V8 5sp Dk Toreador Red, 3.55LS
ARE tonneau cover, p255/70rx16 tires (came w/235), Superchip
Pioneer CD w/4 Polk Speakers & Clarion APA5240amp, skid plates
bed liner, side window deflectors, reese hitch, K&N air filter
40s-2chamber Flowmaster, Bosch +4 spark plugs, rustproofing
Better Built Stainless nerf bars
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This ai my reply to his "Idiot"
{Snip}From: XXXXXXXXXXXXX (dogcam) Date: Fri, Aug 13, 1999, 11:24am To: 2lbgil@netwurx.net Subject: Stupid, Stupid,Stupid
Anyone who would lease a car or truck, and never test drive it, is the above title.
I hope, since you went through Ford credit that your payments are huge, which i believe they are. your pic of the truck shows you have running board on this truck, if you put them on a leased vehicle your again the above Subject title. If you leased this truck with the running boards already on it, i really know Ford credit is eating your wallet and again you apply to the above subject title.
Live and learn, you want to tow something, get the correct motor and gear ratio........STUPID!
I've got a good idea, when you pay off that huge loan, buy a Jap "Rice Burner"
That's all...10-4 {Snip}
I hope he doesn't reply,due to his lack of sense........Dogcam
{Snip}From: XXXXXXXXXXXXX (dogcam) Date: Fri, Aug 13, 1999, 11:24am To: 2lbgil@netwurx.net Subject: Stupid, Stupid,Stupid
Anyone who would lease a car or truck, and never test drive it, is the above title.
I hope, since you went through Ford credit that your payments are huge, which i believe they are. your pic of the truck shows you have running board on this truck, if you put them on a leased vehicle your again the above Subject title. If you leased this truck with the running boards already on it, i really know Ford credit is eating your wallet and again you apply to the above subject title.
Live and learn, you want to tow something, get the correct motor and gear ratio........STUPID!
I've got a good idea, when you pay off that huge loan, buy a Jap "Rice Burner"
That's all...10-4 {Snip}
I hope he doesn't reply,due to his lack of sense........Dogcam
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From: Denver,Co
He strikes me as the type of guy that would walk into is job (if he has one) and start mowing people down with an AK-47...probably looks like that LA guy who freaked out a couple of days ago
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99 F150 5.4 4x4 ORP 3.73 styleside deep wedgewood blue ..no mods (yet)
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99 F150 5.4 4x4 ORP 3.73 styleside deep wedgewood blue ..no mods (yet)
