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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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I have. Why is it so difficult for you to back up your accusations? Actually, you haven't even provided specific accusations, all you do is throw out generalized claims, and then dance around giving any specific answer. Honestly, that just confirms what I already suspected.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PKRWUD
What a cop out.

Okay, then show me where someone else pointed out the specifics. I haven't seen them yet. I've seen a handful of false allegations, but mostly just a lot of conjecture. I'm looking for truth.
How about his tax plan? I disagree with it. It is ridiculous to tax estates so heavily.

I don't have time to argue and go over every thing that the liberal idiot stands for, it HAS been posted in these discussions, over and over.

Oh, another is his Araq position. Totally against the surge until it was successful, then starts restructuring his position. I don't hold him for restructuring, he's a politician. I hold him accountable because he was wrong to oppose the surge.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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How about his tax plan? I disagree with it. It is ridiculous to tax estates so heavily.

I don't have time to argue and go over every thing that the liberal idiot stands for, it HAS been posted in these discussions, over and over.

Oh, another is his Araq position. Totally against the surge until it was successful, then starts restructuring his position. I don't hold him for restructuring, he's a politician. I hold him accountable because he was wrong to oppose the surge.
There, was that so hard? Thank you.

As far as Iraq goes, I understand there are actually still folks out there that feel invading in the first place was a good idea, and it's a waste of time to try and talk rationally about it. If you feel the war was the right thing to do, then I can understand why you'd feel that way about the surge.

As far as the estate tax, Obama is going to lower it, so I'm not sure what you object to. There are several articles on McCain and all his false claims about Obama and taxes at FactCheck.org, but this one specifically addresses the estate tax misconception.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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There is no lack of bad mouthing Obama, but have you really looked beyond the sympathy of McCain's POW experience?

He was a spoiled brat who might not have been accepted to Annapolis if not for the fact his daddy was an Admiral. By his own admission, he finished at the bottom of his class.

Before being captured, he married a beautiful model, who waited faithfully for him during all those difficult POW years. She suffered a disfiguring auto accident while he was gone. Shortly after returning from Vietnam, he began to cheat on his wife (repeatedly), ultimately divorcing her.

He married a rich heiress, and used her father's wealth and busienss connection, along with his POW noteriety and his daddy's military name, to launch a political career.

Judge a man by the content of his character...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpro
There is no lack of bad mouthing Obama, but have you really looked beyond the sympathy of McCain's POW experience?

He was a spoiled brat who might not have been accepted to Annapolis if not for the fact his daddy was an Admiral. By his own admission, he finished at the bottom of his class.

Before being captured, he married a beautiful model, who waited faithfully for him during all those difficult POW years. She suffered a disfiguring auto accident while he was gone. Shortly after returning from Vietnam, he began to cheat on his wife (repeatedly), ultimately divorcing her.

He married a rich heiress, and used her father's wealth and busienss connection, along with his POW noteriety and his daddy's military name, to launch a political career.

Judge a man by the content of his character...
Funny people bash Michelle Obama but pass right over McCain saying he first fell in love with his country while in captivity.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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You guys are too funny.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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You guys are too funny.
You really think so, I don't find it very funny.

McCain's Admiral daddy got him into the U.S. Naval Academy where he was a screw up and barely graduated. Obama was a product of a broken marriage, half black, and managed to get himself into Harvard and become the president of the Harvard Law Review.

Forget about political idology, what does that set of facts tell you about a man's character and intelligence?


McCain cheated on his devoted wife and married an hierss and exploited her families money and connections to launch a political career. Obama became a community organizer immediately after completing Harvard law School and helped poor people improve their lives, and made almost nothing financially. when he did get into politics, it was from the bottom up, he didn't have any one else's money or political connections to rely upon.

What does that set of facts tell you about the character of a man?

Bad mouth Obama all you want to, for whatever reason you think you might have. But prepare yourself, because come January, he will be your President, and he will be faced with the greatest array of challenge any American President has faced since WWII.

Shall we try to swim together or drown cutting each other down some more?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PKRWUD
What a cop out.

Okay, then show me where someone else pointed out the specifics. I haven't seen them yet. I've seen a handful of false allegations, but mostly just a lot of conjecture. I'm looking for truth.
Are you blind? He wants to raise taxes on corporations. That is NOT a good idea. He SAYS he will give 95% of Americans a tax break... HOW? 40% of Americans don't pay taxes now! 80-95% of the taxes are paid by 5% of the people. Socialized medicine. Decimate our military. Give me a friggen break. Now you tell me... what is so attractive about socialism that you like?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpro
There is no lack of bad mouthing Obama, but have you really looked beyond the sympathy of McCain's POW experience?

He was a spoiled brat who might not have been accepted to Annapolis if not for the fact his daddy was an Admiral. By his own admission, he finished at the bottom of his class.

Before being captured, he married a beautiful model, who waited faithfully for him during all those difficult POW years. She suffered a disfiguring auto accident while he was gone. Shortly after returning from Vietnam, he began to cheat on his wife (repeatedly), ultimately divorcing her.

He married a rich heiress, and used her father's wealth and busienss connection, along with his POW noteriety and his daddy's military name, to launch a political career.

Judge a man by the content of his character...

wow.. he sounds like a democrat. You should really like him....I don't.Married a rich wife.. like john kerry.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpro

Shall we try to swim together or drown cutting each other down some more?
McCain has a history of working outside party lines to get things done, Obama does not. What type of progress can Obama possibly make with a record like that? It seems I support the only candidate to work in a bipartisan manner.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
McCain has a history of working outside party lines to get things done, Obama does not. What type of progress can Obama possibly make with a record like that? It seems I support the only candidate to work in a bipartisan manner.
McCain's record and Obama's records are very much the same when towing the party line with votes and working with members of the other party on bills. Next time you are done listening to Rush Limbaugh, you might want to go double check what he said.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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I support the only candidate to work in a bipartisan manner.
Let's face it Stealth, You'd "support" pretty much ANY Candidate the Republican Party Told you to....



 

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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McCain has a history of working outside party lines to get things done...
McCain works for whatever benefits McCain. He likes the lime-light, despite his false impression of modesty. In fact, I think he is addicted to it.

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...What type of progress can Obama possibly make with a record like that?
Obama has made a great deal of progress, or haven't you noticed; he is about to become President of the united States?

Not only President, but one of the youngest Presidents in history, and the FIRST black President in history.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpro
McCain works for whatever benefits McCain. He likes the lime-light, despite his false impression of modesty. In fact, I think he is addicted to it.



Obama has made a great deal of progress, or haven't you noticed; he is about to become President of the united States?

Not only President, but one of the youngest Presidents in history, and the FIRST black President in history.
You guys are funny!

Why do you have to make it a race thing? Obama is half african american.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpro
McCain works for whatever benefits McCain. He likes the lime-light, despite his false impression of modesty. In fact, I think he is addicted to it.



Obama has made a great deal of progress, or haven't you noticed; he is about to become President of the united States?

Not only President, but one of the youngest Presidents in history, and the FIRST black President in history.
He has made NO progress. He is NOT going to be president. Youngest? That is scarry. Firt black? I hardly think so. He is not black. Not one bit. And so what? I care about the issues. I don't care about color.
 
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