Police State?
Yes we have the right to bear arms against our govt if the need arises. Having the Army trained to deal with natural disasters is not one of those needs. If people didnt act like animals when there is no one around to stop them then things like this wouldnt be necessary. The fact is that when things happen to cities and states like Katrina, the police arent equipped to handle everything at once, the citizens know this and they start taking advantage. Its quite pathetic, its like your a 4 yr old and the babysitter just went into the other room and you go crazy.
The Army stepping in and acting as police to help out does not give you the right to start carrying around a gun.
This is not the govt trying to get a hold of you, its the govt trying to be better prepared
The Army stepping in and acting as police to help out does not give you the right to start carrying around a gun.
This is not the govt trying to get a hold of you, its the govt trying to be better prepared
how can anybody make the claim that it is better to have civilians shooting police, or police shooting civilians? That is a ridiculous aurgument. That being said Katrina was a natural disaster. Don't live ten feet below sea level on the coast of a hurricane prone region.
The second amendment WAS ment for people to be able to arm themselves against gov't. but police is not gov't its a peace keeping force.
Crazed, I never heard that police were shooting and killing people, not disagreeing with you, just wondering were you heard this. All I can remember hearing is how all the "New Orleanians" were raping and murdering eachother in the super dome.
The second amendment WAS ment for people to be able to arm themselves against gov't. but police is not gov't its a peace keeping force.
Crazed, I never heard that police were shooting and killing people, not disagreeing with you, just wondering were you heard this. All I can remember hearing is how all the "New Orleanians" were raping and murdering eachother in the super dome.
WTF!? What kind of illiterate person are you? We have the God given right to protect ourselves, the Constitution is EXPLICIT in saying the government cannot take that away from us. I have the God given right to always or never carry a gun, it is NOT up to the government to decide that for me.
You walk down the street with a gun in your hand, without a permit from the GOVT and let me know how that works out for you, pretty sure youll be in the news as the "dead guy who thought he was above the law". If it is my God given right to carry a gun, how come i cant get a concealed weapons permit? guess i should just carry one anyways since its my right. No, because i dont feel like getting shot.
You make it sound like they are training the Army to take over the world. They are training the Army to act as police when something like Katrina happens, which the national guard has been doing the whole time, the only difference is we are giving them proper training to do that, not just taking guys on their weekend duty and giving them a guna nd telling them to make sure none of the idiots loot the stores.
Why do you have a problem with this? Quit stealing when you think there are no cops around and we wouldnt have to waste the taxpayers money training Army guys to do this. End of story!
Name calling? I just said you can't read (which is obvious from your lack of knowing your own rights).
The Constitution PROTECTS our God given rights from the government. Further, I never said the government didn't have the ABILITY, they don't have the authority.
As for walking down the street in my state with a gun in hand, fine. Do it. Legal as can be. New Mexico has some of the most gun-friendly laws in the country. I can't speak for Arkansas, but it appears that your state sucks, and something needs to be done to remedy that. Write your legislators, or better yet, RUN FOR OFFICE!
p.s. I've never stolen anything in my life, or, as far as I can remember, initiated aggression or mistreatment towards someone.
The Constitution PROTECTS our God given rights from the government. Further, I never said the government didn't have the ABILITY, they don't have the authority.
As for walking down the street in my state with a gun in hand, fine. Do it. Legal as can be. New Mexico has some of the most gun-friendly laws in the country. I can't speak for Arkansas, but it appears that your state sucks, and something needs to be done to remedy that. Write your legislators, or better yet, RUN FOR OFFICE!
p.s. I've never stolen anything in my life, or, as far as I can remember, initiated aggression or mistreatment towards someone.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
Here is your new mexico law:
Authority to disarm. A peace officer acting in the lawful discharge of his official duties is authorized to disarm a licensee at any time the peace officer has probable cause to believe it is necessary for the protection of the licensee, peace officer or other individual. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the licensee before dismissing the licensee from the scene when the peace officer has determined that the licensee is not a threat to himself, the peace officer, or other individuals, provided that the licensee has not violated any provision of the act or this rule, or committed any other violation which could result in arrest of the licensee. If the peace officer has probable cause to believe that the handgun is stolen, has an altered serial number, or has been used in the commission of a crime, the peace officer shall hold the handgun in evidence and shall submit a copy of his or her agency report to the department within 10 working days.
Your laws are the same as ours, im not a resident of Arkansas, therefore i can not carry (God has nothing to do with this). A govt employee (a cop) can come disarm you anytime they feel you are being a threat, that means, if you even look suspicous, the govt will take your gun. You also cant have it loaded. Whats the point of carrying around a paper weight thats shaped like a gun?
The point of the second amendment is to protect ourselves form a rogue govt. The perfect example of this is the *****. If our govt turned into a Hitler nation, he have the God given right to form up and protect our freedom from our own govt. If the govt sends some Army guys to help police a city after a natural disaster, that DOES NOT give you the right to not listen to them because they are soilders and not cops. You act like if a soilder was directing traffic in a manner you dont like, your gonna whip out a gun and think you can do whatever you want.
My point is, why are you even talking about this, the topic was the US Govt is training soilders to be cops when there are not enough cops to control the worlds idiots.
"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."
I still dont have any idea why you have a problem with this, you think the sheriff of rinkydinkville will know what to do in these situations.
Last edited by DaMoose81; Sep 29, 2008 at 05:21 PM.


