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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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McCain and Keating Five

If I could talk the the McCain campaign, I would tell them to get ahead of this one. They know that the democrats are going to us it. How could they not? They will probably wait a month or so, so that it's close enough to the election where people won't take the time to learn the story.

Do you folks agree? Would it be better if the McCain campaign came out in front of this story and explained their side?

It's going to be tough when the story does come out. Even though McCain wasn't charged with any crimes, he will still be criticized for "poor judgement" and associating with the wrong people.

Here is Wikipedia's take:

Wikipedia-Keating Five

I'm curious about what you folks think will happen when this story eventually becomes the story of the day.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[17][16] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[6] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[20] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[6]

that should be the response to any inquiry into any mention of Keating
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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that should be the response to any inquiry into any mention of Keating
You don't think that the democrats are going to say that McCain associated with criminals? They might expect us to give Obama a pass for his associations with Rezco, Ayers and Wright.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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In light of recent problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (under a Democrat controlled Senate) and considering 4 of the 5 Senators involved in the Keating 5 were Democrats, I don't think we will hear much about it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
In light of recent problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (under a Democrat controlled Senate) and considering 4 of the 5 Senators involved in the Keating 5 were Democrats, I don't think we will hear much about it.
and dont forget this little nugget of golden irony

DeConcini was appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

that sure was a good idea, when did all of the predatory loan practices start in earnest hmmmm I was offered one when clinton was in office
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wittom
You don't think that the democrats are going to say that McCain associated with criminals? They might expect us to give Obama a pass for his associations with Rezco, Ayers and Wright.


murderers, gangsters, and domestic terrorists > swindlers
 
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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I saw a documentary about McCain on Foxnews. The investigator (a democrat) said McCain didn't do anything wrong and shouldn't be punished. He was reprimanded for using poor judgement. We're all guilty of that.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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Not nearly as bad as all of Obama's questionable aquaintances, pastors, parents, brother, etc. etc.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wittom
You don't think that the democrats are going to say that McCain associated with criminals? They might expect us to give Obama a pass for his associations with Rezco, Ayers and Wright.
First, find a politician at the state or national level that hasn't "used poor judgment", they are few and far between. Second, if you are going to bash Obama, how can you give McCain a pass? What McCain should do is publicly state that the Obama connections are meaningless if he wants to head this off. You are right, it will come up. Hell, some one posted a video of Obama introducing Kilpatrick and went off on a relationship, or a link (we know how much conservatives like the word link) between Obama and Kilpatrick, so let apples be apples. Neither McCain or Obama has been convicted of anything, so if you want to question one's links, the others are up for grabs.

You should really be more concerned about Palin's past. She's the obvious star of the show and McCain was already dragged through the mud by the Bush campaign in 1999.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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same could be said for all of obama's ties then
I may not agree with you all the time, but you don't have double standards, you think everyone sucks!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
same could be said for all of obama's ties then
Nope. Obama willingly connected with his shady characters.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by momalle1
You should really be more concerned about Palin's past.
What exactly should I be looking at?

Newsweek-Sliming Palin
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
*facepalm*

*sigh*

You cant criticize person A for doing X unless you want person B criticized for doing X as well. BOTH of them were involved with shady things.
Further, just because he didnt get punished doesnt mean he is innocent. Bill Clinton didnt get much and he admitted to doing something wrong (lying under oath).


Everyone doesn't suck?





re: Keating 5

Yet McCain still met with them ... bad judgment? Not that he did anything wrong, but it's a fair question to ask.
Sheez already CrAz3D. Your logic baffles me. Hopefully one day you'll learn. Then I'll vote for you.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
McCain associated with bad people.
Obama associated with bad people.
Neither have been found to have done something explicitly wrong.


It is the exact same situation for both, only McCain's happened a few years ago.
and obamas continues to this day
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Everyone doesn't suck?.

Just joking
 
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