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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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What exactly should I be looking at?

Newsweek-Sliming Palin
I'm not saying there is anything, (but there could be). What I'm saying is everything about McCain has already been said, it's one of the things that makes him a good candidate. Hillary would have been in the same boat, everyone already knows her skeletons. Palin may be young in politics, but she's not brand new, who knows what may come out. I wouldn't be concerned about what will come out about McCain as much as what may come out about Palin.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Well CrAz3D, at least what happened to McCain in the Keating debacle sprurred him to to make changes in Washington, D.C. Nobody can say that Obama has done similar. To me it seems like Obama has no conscience towards his bad decisions.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Well CrAz3D, at least what happened to McCain in the Keating debacle sprurred him to to make changes in Washington, D.C. Nobody can say that Obama has done similar. To me it seems like Obama has no conscience towards his bad decisions.
and at least McCain has admitted his mistake obama doesn't think he made one or a hundred or so
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by po1911
and at least McCain has admitted his mistake obama doesn't think he made one or a hundred or so
Lot's of people admit their mistakes after they get caught, doesn't make them saints.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
What changes related to this did he make? It just seems he distanced himself from Keating, much as Obama has done with Rezko & Wright. Both occasions seem to be "belated" though.

Neither of them did anything wrong. *shrug*


po1911, I will agree that Obama is reluctant to admit to anything, but still dont mean he done nothin wrong
Obama was attending Rev. Wright's questionable church as far back as Keating 5. He just recently quit going there. Took him long enough.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
So they both made mistakes...
There is this little thing called orders of magnitude.

Not all mistakes (and lapses of judgement) are created equal.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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There is this little thing called orders of magnitude.

Not all mistakes (and lapses of judgement) are created equal.
And there is who is judging those orders of magnitude. Reagan lied, under oath, about running an illegal war (illegal under US law, not UN law) and allowing narcotics to flow into the US to fund it where Clinton lied about having sex, yet wing nuts hold Reagan in high regard and blast Clinton for being a liar. In the order of magnitude, which is worse? For most in this forum, doesn't matter what McCain does, they'll praise and defend him nor does it matter what Obama does, they'll bash him. Obama could stop McCain from beating up their mothers and they would still praise McCain and bash Obama. With that kind of reasoning, it's no wonder your average right winger pushes people to vote Democrat.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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FYI, Reagan is held in high regard for winning the cold war, among other things.

If you want to pick nits and whine about illegal wars, how about Clinton's attacks on Serbia? Nice way to divert the nation from his lies under oath...

Stay focused. The race is Obama vs. McCain. War hero vs. communtity organizer. It is not Bill Clinton vs. Reagan, or Bill Clinton vs. McCain, or Obama vs. G.W. Bush.

But if you want to turn the race into Reagan vs. Obama, be my guest!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
FYI, Reagan is held in high regard for winning the cold war, among other things.

If you want to pick nits and whine about illegal wars, how about Clinton's attacks on Serbia? Nice way to divert the nation from his lies under oath...

Stay focused. The race is Obama vs. McCain. War hero vs. communtity organizer. It is not Bill Clinton vs. Reagan, or Bill Clinton vs. McCain, or Obama vs. G.W. Bush.

But if you want to turn the race into Reagan vs. Obama, be my guest!
You're the one that brought up magnitude. The proof is in your response, it's impossible to weigh magnitude when you're so biased. The nit was about lieing and magnitude, not illegal wars.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
*shrug*
Would you stop all this *shrugging* already!? You're going to have bad posture.
 
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