In god we trust
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I am an Idiot. An idiot for even speaking to a Liberal. Why? They have an agenda... You say concerning the Constitution:
The 2nd amendment CLEARLY states...
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
So what you are telling me is that the Founders intended for only the Military to have the right to bear arms? You actually think that they felt it necessary to make sure the Military did not lose that right?
Liberals want to interpret and change the intent of the Fathers. The "separation of church and state" was coined by the Libs. Under God is not condoning a any religion. Again, Liberal thought permeating and destroying this wonderful country.
The 2nd amendment CLEARLY states...
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
So what you are telling me is that the Founders intended for only the Military to have the right to bear arms? You actually think that they felt it necessary to make sure the Military did not lose that right?
Liberals want to interpret and change the intent of the Fathers. The "separation of church and state" was coined by the Libs. Under God is not condoning a any religion. Again, Liberal thought permeating and destroying this wonderful country.
The intent of the clause is right there in black and white. Ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Funny, you choose to ignore "A well regulated Militia" or that "the people" are referred to, not the individual. No, the intent was clearly that the military would not be the only ones to have arms, a direct reaction to the British marching to Concord to seize arms. It's apparent you are unfamiliar with the history of the time, or simply choose to ignore that which doesn't fit your agenda.
That said, it's a bit outdated as nothing you could own would match the military and there should be an amendment guaranteeing law abiding citizens can own guns.
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Pretty sad we can have an official motto, but Congress refuses to vote on an official language.
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Remove "In God We Trust'"? Why do we spend so much time on this type of crap? It worked for over 2000 years. Jeez, people. If you believe in God, paper money spends and if you don't, it still spends. (I believe, by the way.) Why don't we try to get rid of "until death do you part" in the marriage vows? Now that's a cause to rally behind. - Og
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Not in The United States of America.
What part of the Bible taught you that Christian principle?
"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."
-From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797. Unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams.
So you're saying that it was wrong to change things from they way they were originally by adding the words In God We Trust to our currency?
This is a common misconception. No where does it say that students can't say prayers in school. In fact, no where does it say that anyone can't pray on their own time.
The freedom of religion includes the freedom from religion, should one so desire.
Actually, Thomas Jefferson coined the term when he was trying to explain things to some Baptist leaders.
Actually, when this country was founded, our motto was "E Pluribus Unum." It was almost 100 years later before a minister convinced the Secretary of the Treasury to try and get 'In God We Trust' on our coins. It was never a part of our true heritage.
What part of the Bible taught you that Christian principle?
"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."
-From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797. Unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams.
this was not what was intended by our forefathers. if you recall your history lessons in medieval times and as late as our revolution the church was corrupt and controlled the government. that is what separation of church and state really means. that the church cannot run the government. It does not mean that- no saying prayer in school...
Actually, when this country was founded, our motto was "E Pluribus Unum." It was almost 100 years later before a minister convinced the Secretary of the Treasury to try and get 'In God We Trust' on our coins. It was never a part of our true heritage.
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Is everyone that disagrees with you a liberal? Honestly, is that the best you can do, name calling?
The intent of the clause is right there in black and white. Ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Funny, you choose to ignore "A well regulated Militia" or that "the people" are referred to, not the individual. No, the intent was clearly that the military would not be the only ones to have arms, a direct reaction to the British marching to Concord to seize arms. It's apparent you are unfamiliar with the history of the time, or simply choose to ignore that which doesn't fit your agenda.
That said, it's a bit outdated as nothing you could own would match the military and there should be an amendment guaranteeing law abiding citizens can own guns.
The intent of the clause is right there in black and white. Ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Funny, you choose to ignore "A well regulated Militia" or that "the people" are referred to, not the individual. No, the intent was clearly that the military would not be the only ones to have arms, a direct reaction to the British marching to Concord to seize arms. It's apparent you are unfamiliar with the history of the time, or simply choose to ignore that which doesn't fit your agenda.
That said, it's a bit outdated as nothing you could own would match the military and there should be an amendment guaranteeing law abiding citizens can own guns.
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"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."
-From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797. Unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams.
"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."
-From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797. Unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams.
The URLs are telling when that phrase is googled.
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WTF? The people are the individuals... And yes I called a spade a spade. The cat that I called a Liberal, is a Liberal. And NO ****, the intent was clear that individuals have a right to bear arms. Next time please read further, and not crawl up someone *** you really agree with, but fail to see the content.
"The people" is a collective.
The "cat" I was referring to was me as in your response. If you didn't intend to call me a liberal, I don't know why you brought it up in response to my comments.
I showed you the basis for the freedom of religion clause, and also showed you the background for the right to bear arms clause, show me something different to back up your claim. Again, I clearly stated I believe every law-abiding citizen should be allowed to own guns, I just don't think that's what the clause says.
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Yes, I'm aware of this. It's interesting that Congress is not allowed to make any law favoring one religion but it is they that make this decision. Is a decision about what get's written on money a law technically?
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No, it is not.
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BTW, here's a transcript of the letter Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists.
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.
The 1st amendment prevented Congres from creating, or establishing an official Church, and prevented any Church from getting Congress to give or show them favor. That's it.
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.
The 1st amendment prevented Congres from creating, or establishing an official Church, and prevented any Church from getting Congress to give or show them favor. That's it.
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Wrong.
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fac...-we-trust.html
In God We Trust
A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 11, 1955. It said that the motto "In God We Trust" should appear on all United States paper currency and coins. This law provides that:
On July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.
A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 11, 1955. It said that the motto "In God We Trust" should appear on all United States paper currency and coins. This law provides that:
At such time as new dies for the printing of currency are adopted in connection with the current program of the Treasury Department to increase the capacity of presses utilized by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the dies shall bear, at such place or places thereon as the Secretary of the Treasury may determine to be appropriate, the inscription IN GOD WE TRUST, and thereafter this inscription shall appear on all United States currency and coins.
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Wrong.
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fac...-we-trust.html
In God We Trust
A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 11, 1955. It said that the motto "In God We Trust" should appear on all United States paper currency and coins. This law provides that:
Quote:
At such time as new dies for the printing of currency are adopted in connection with the current program of the Treasury Department to increase the capacity of presses utilized by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the dies shall bear, at such place or places thereon as the Secretary of the Treasury may determine to be appropriate, the inscription IN GOD WE TRUST, and thereafter this inscription shall appear on all United States currency and coins.
On July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.
A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 11, 1955. It said that the motto "In God We Trust" should appear on all United States paper currency and coins. This law provides that:
Quote:
At such time as new dies for the printing of currency are adopted in connection with the current program of the Treasury Department to increase the capacity of presses utilized by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the dies shall bear, at such place or places thereon as the Secretary of the Treasury may determine to be appropriate, the inscription IN GOD WE TRUST, and thereafter this inscription shall appear on all United States currency and coins.
On July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.
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Right you are. I meant to say that on July 11, 1955, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Public Law 140 making it mandatory that all coinage and paper currency display the motto.
It was Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX) who introduced the bill as Calendar No. 642, H.R. 619
It was Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX) who introduced the bill as Calendar No. 642, H.R. 619