Illinois State Police Start at 50k plus. Im either going that route or Human Resources Manager.

 

Go to the Mozilla website then go to the Add-ons section and look up Ad-Block Pro. It's a really nice plugin.

 

Salaries vary quite a bit even within a certain region. NC state troopers start out around the same that I am making. The difference is they will hit the $50K mark by five years or so and I probably won't be there in 25 years working for a municipal PD. Of course the cream of the crop is on the Fed level. But is it worth it? I ask myself that question a lot .

 

Yea...ISP is one of the highest paying state police jobs.

 

The guy has had several complaints filed on him. He still has a job. There are two more troopers just like him that also live in my neighborhood. I could give several other examples of cops abusing their power, but I think you get the picture. The biggest gripe that we have is when cops let other cops break the very laws they have been sworn to enforce. Like the story above about the police chief using the handicapped spot. This is the type of behavior that makes us regular people dislike cops. If the cops really want to earn the respect of the general public they should start by cleaning out their own ranks. Until then you will ALL be perceived poorly.

 

I didn't watch the video from the OP. See enough crap every shift, in person. I just wanted to comment that many, many, years ago my 3 day old son pee'd on a cop!

I keep a list (not a grudge) of places I need to pee when I get very old. Most will involve places my son will own by then!

 

That dude is a "Bad Apple" who lets the power corrupt him! There are douchbags in every profession!.............

 

 

Agreed. Cops get a bad rap because it seems like only the azzhole cops are the ones that get all the publicity. I rarely see stories about cops that should be commended for their actions. Especially on this forum. Which is where I get all my news from.

 

Wookie, I understand your point but at the same time are all politicians adultorers because Clinton and Edwards cheated on their wives? Are all athletes cheaters because Bonds and Armstrong used performance enhancing drugs? It just stings for the ones of us who strive not to be that way and get labeled anyway.

As for the original topic of this post. Funny story? Yeah, it had a happy ending, so I guess. But for most cops the home is sacred. It's where our families are along with everything we have worked so hard to acquire. We do not take work there and we don't want it coming there. This guy would have gotten the muzzle of a weapon pressed into his forehead and/or a high speed impact with my front yard. Not for pissing on my door...for bringing something to my home that is better left elsewhere.

 

No, and I never said that all cops were bad. However, the actions of the bad do tarnish your good image. There should be more "policing" of the police, not the "good 'ole buy club" that exists. Why do the good cops protect their "brothers" and not go after the bad cops instead of allowing them to hide behind a badge?

Another thing, I would not use politicians as an example of things that could be good. That's pretty shaky ground to be standing on...

 

Perfect example of you NOT showing a power trip huh ?

Gunna kill a man because he came onto your property ?? Your a good person....



Your one of the people contributing to the bad image of good police officers everywhere. You just posted that on the internet for anyone to see. Think before you type.

Harelydude: My line was more of a joke, along the line of "no one like you when your in the rear-view, but then they don't like you when your not there for them" . Your in a profession where it is lose-lose. I shed no tear for you. I work as a mechanic, and in most peoples eyes, ALL mechanics are bad. They all are corrupt, they all steal and trick people, they all lie, and are all stupid, simple grease monkeys. I think every profession has its "stereotype" .
All lawyers are greedy, soul-less sharks, who care nothing for the people the represent, but only want money. All politicians and salesmen are liars and manipulaters. All accountants are nerdy, geeky, pen protecting dorks.

If you do not want the stereotype you are given, then you have to go above and beyond in order to prove it. Statements like "He'd get the muzzle of a weapon pressed into his forehead" doesn't help. I am just saying.

To that point, as I mentioned, I went through AJ classes and all, and was about to try to join a PD but realized it wasn't for me. I learned it takes a special breed of people to do this job. Its a tough job, and I commend anyone who has chosen it as a profession. But, you do need to be somewhat of a "tough guy". Not unfair by any means, but you can't shy away from getting in people's face. You can't be afraid to confront someone. Its a certain attitude that you need to be a cop, and some may see that as being a "****". The "need for a certain attitude" also will draw out many people not perfectly suited for being a police officer. People that were "bullies" in school, people with some kind of grudge, people that will easily allow power to go to their heads, this small percentage of people that leak into the PD, give all of you a bad name. Don't protect the crooked. Don't stand by while you know a cop is doing wrong. I see cops breaking simple traffic violations all the time. Granted, the rules of the road don't exactly apply to them, and they can get away with it, but why ? Why not set a good example ? Go above and beyond.

as for anyone complaining about pay.... quit. Get a better job. You always have a choice.

 

Wookie:
I work for a department of only about 40 officers and I don't feel like we have to worry about any "bad cops" here. Some of them have attitudes yes, but everyone works within the law and within reason whether they wish it differently or not. Then again, I'm on the inside looking out so I wouldn't argue that my view is probably skewed compared to some.

My overall feeling is this. This job is one of a kind. No one can possibly understand the dimensions of it without experiencing it firsthand (much like any profession I guess). I put forth so much effort to be helpful and reasonable while accomplishing my duties at the same time. But then I meet someone new and when they find out I'm a cop they label me as a ***** and automatically assume I was picked on in high school and that I love doughnuts. All because they had a less than favorable run-in with someone else with a badge. I understand why it happens but I still don't like it.

We should get together for a debate some time.

 

You are wrong. That is not a power trip. That is simply me stating the facts about what I would do in a given circumstance. Not to mention that I would be at home, off-duty, outside my jurisdiction and not operating under any law enforcement authority. Its kinda hard to trip on power that you don't even have.

I didn't say anything about killing anyone. No, I'm not going to answer the door and put a round between his eyes. I will start with the pistol and we will see where it goes from there. It's his choice. Harsh? Yes indeed. Why? Until you have had the scum of the earth....I'm talking about a drug-dealing, automatic weapons-owning rapist.....tell you that he knows what you drive and threaten you and your family I don't expect you to understand why. It has happened to me. Is every stranger that comes to my door this person? No. Do I always greet strangers with a gun? No. Maybe I should be a little clearer about my actions than I was in the first post. If a subject that I recognize as being one that I have dealt with (arrested, fought, cited, charged, etc) from work shows up at my door I am going to assume the worst until the facts show otherwise. Not because I'm a police officer, not because I am a self-proclaimed badass (which I certainly am not). Because my family and everything I love is on the other side of that door with me.

If I wasn't clear enough when I stated this the first time then I do apologize. If after reading this you still think I am the shining example of the stereotypical badge-heavy police officer then our opinions will never be reconciled. I go out of my way...truth be told I put myself in greater danger than neccesary....just to be nice to people. I don't care if you are being arrested, getting a ticket, filing a report, are the victim of a crime or what. I will make every effort to leave you with the thought "That is the nicest police officer I have ever met". And a lot of the time they will tell me that very thing. If you wanna run or fight or be an *** to me, fine, I'm probably going to get ugly. But when you stop doing those things and decide to play nice, so will I. I don't deserve or appreciate the "bad image" you have labeled me with.

 

I was not judging you, or taking you literal. I was simply pointing out, you guys are complaining about a bad rep. My reply was simply how most people would have taken your post. You say people assume your all "bad *** ******" and your tryign to defend it, then you say something like you did. Its contradictory, and something many "cop haters" would jump all over. I was just wanting to point out, your online for the world to see, your a police officer, therefore held to a higher standard, and you should really think before posting. This last post was great, and very well said, the first one came off kinda differently.

Also, your first line, about not having power, isn't accurate. Gang bangin losers get power trips and they have zero authority. They get their power from holding a gun, as I feel some of the "bad apples" do as well. Its not just the badge, its that thing you keep handy on your side. So, even being off duty, yes you COULD have a power trip, not that I am saying you are/have/will. I hope, since your a trained profesional, that you wouldn't be as easily manipulated by the power in the gun.

I hope yall don't take this as an attack to you. I have many friends and family (including my own mother, retired now for quite some time) who work in law enforcement. I have nothing but repsect for you. I am simply trying to show you the "other side of the coin" so to speak. I also enjoy a good, mature debate.

* as a side note, yes I have had many bottom dwelling scum threaten my life. I worked for the Sonoma County Court system, working security in the Santa Rosa Court house. I confiscated drugs and weapons many times leading to more criminal charges. I have been held both at knife point and at gun point. Is it the same as you ? No. But I do understand where your coming from, and feel you have a 100% right to defend yourself as need be. Especially when it comes down to family and home. I do understand the different outlook you gain, after such things have happened to you. I just think the way you said it, wasn't good for the arguement you guys were presenting. Thats all (did you even read the rest of my last post ??)