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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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there was a guy around here that designed a carb that make cars get a lot better gas mileage about 20 years ago.

He sold out to an oil company. *****.

anyway some guys from new york approached him a few months ago and asked him for advice on a device they were inventing that was supposed to be a bolt on product that would double a cars MPG.

something about vaporizing the fuel before it is delivered to the cylinder.

supposedly this guy saw the plans and said it would work.

Maybe BS but hopfully not.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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this is a fine example of crap bag pseudo journalism here is the scenario I make something up that has less than 1% of actually happening and in 3.....2.....1... EVERYBODY PANIC !!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
The republicans today shot down the dems attempt on just that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080610/...ss_oil_profits
I can understand the Republicans rationale, but don't we still lose either way? Taxing the historic profits or letting the prices continually rise is six in one hand and half a dozen in the other. Right? - Og
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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this is a fine example of crap bag pseudo journalism here is the scenario I make something up that has less than 1% of actually happening and in 3.....2.....1... EVERYBODY PANIC !!!!!!!!!!
Fear sells papers and boosts ratings. It's casual. - Og
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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I can understand the Republicans rationale, but don't we still lose either way? Taxing the historic profits or letting the prices continually rise is six in one hand and half a dozen in the other. Right? - Og
If we tax the profits, the oil companies will cut production to lessen their tax burden AND their operating expenses, creating a shortage. No-win situation.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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If our leaders had any *****, we would be drilling in Anwar! I saw a story that there is enough oil there to fuel this country for the next 100 years & be energy independent! Screw the 911 Saudi's & that Hugo Chavez midget pigmy! But no, we do not have any leaders worth their *&^%! I'm sure that we could do it in a way that would not even impact the "Environment" much at all with todays technologies! This country would be better off being run by Moe,Larry, & Curly!.............
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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This country would be better off being run by Moe,Larry, & Curly!.............


that's good enough for a sig
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but how long did we honestly think that we could continue to export our western culture to eastern nations before we would have to start paying the consequences?

The weaker US dollar makes domestically produced products more competitive overseas. This is highly favorable to US manufactures and thus to the workers who make products that are shipped overseas. For example, US automakers are able to sell more cars to the Chinese, Japanese, etc. Which is great for the workers on the assembly lines making components to produce these cars. The down side is that this is putting stress on the already limited production of fuels.

Last year alone, Ford, GM, and Chrysler respectively saw 30%, 19%, and 25% increases in auto sales in China alone. This is great for these corporations, but this ever expanding market competes directly for the same gasoline that you and I depend on in our daily lives.

Additionally the infrastructure is not in place to deal with the surging demand for refined fuels. Regardless of how much the OPEC nations extract from the oil fields.

The weaker dollar makes the purchase of crude oil more expensive simply because oil is traded in US dollars. Thus it cost more US dollars today to buy the same amount of crude oil last year when the US dollar was stronger.

The weaker dollar is tied to the Fed Chairman cutting points off of the interest rate. Lower rates boost the economy by making big purchases such as houses more affordable. Lower rates reduce the value of the dollar, which has already fallen sharply in recent years. Which is directly tied to the slump in the housing market and now the attempt to bail out mortgage lenders.

Lastly, these Asian nations have government subsidies in place to regulate the cost of fuels that their citizens pay at the pump. Its not a free market system like we have here in the US where the price is directly connected to supply and demand.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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It was all a mess created by the goverments stupid price controls and interferring.
I wonder if the same thing could happen today?

 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxlander
Not trying to stir the pot here, but how long did we honestly think that we could continue to export our western culture to eastern nations before we would have to start paying the consequences?

The weaker US dollar makes domestically produced products more competitive overseas. This is highly favorable to US manufactures and thus to the workers who make products that are shipped overseas. For example, US automakers are able to sell more cars to the Chinese, Japanese, etc. Which is great for the workers on the assembly lines making components to produce these cars. The down side is that this is putting stress on the already limited production of fuels.

Last year alone, Ford, GM, and Chrysler respectively saw 30%, 19%, and 25% increases in auto sales in China alone. This is great for these corporations, but this ever expanding market competes directly for the same gasoline that you and I depend on in our daily lives.

Additionally the infrastructure is not in place to deal with the surging demand for refined fuels. Regardless of how much the OPEC nations extract from the oil fields.

The weaker dollar makes the purchase of crude oil more expensive simply because oil is traded in US dollars. Thus it cost more US dollars today to buy the same amount of crude oil last year when the US dollar was stronger.

The weaker dollar is tied to the Fed Chairman cutting points off of the interest rate. Lower rates boost the economy by making big purchases such as houses more affordable. Lower rates reduce the value of the dollar, which has already fallen sharply in recent years. Which is directly tied to the slump in the housing market and now the attempt to bail out mortgage lenders.

Lastly, these Asian nations have government subsidies in place to regulate the cost of fuels that their citizens pay at the pump. Its not a free market system like we have here in the US where the price is directly connected to supply and demand.

Hey Ox do you want me to photoshop that sig and make it a little more realistic by making the horizon a farm or somethin?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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I actually think its pretty authentic already. That's a baptist church across the road. In Texas they are as common as cattle.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Oxlander
Not trying to stir the pot here, but how long did we honestly think that we could continue to export our western culture to eastern nations before we would have to start paying the consequences?

The weaker US dollar makes domestically produced products more competitive overseas. This is highly favorable to US manufactures and thus to the workers who make products that are shipped overseas. For example, US automakers are able to sell more cars to the Chinese, Japanese, etc. Which is great for the workers on the assembly lines making components to produce these cars. The down side is that this is putting stress on the already limited production of fuels.

Last year alone, Ford, GM, and Chrysler respectively saw 30%, 19%, and 25% increases in auto sales in China alone. This is great for these corporations, but this ever expanding market competes directly for the same gasoline that you and I depend on in our daily lives.

Additionally the infrastructure is not in place to deal with the surging demand for refined fuels. Regardless of how much the OPEC nations extract from the oil fields.

The weaker dollar makes the purchase of crude oil more expensive simply because oil is traded in US dollars. Thus it cost more US dollars today to buy the same amount of crude oil last year when the US dollar was stronger.

The weaker dollar is tied to the Fed Chairman cutting points off of the interest rate. Lower rates boost the economy by making big purchases such as houses more affordable. Lower rates reduce the value of the dollar, which has already fallen sharply in recent years. Which is directly tied to the slump in the housing market and now the attempt to bail out mortgage lenders.

Lastly, these Asian nations have government subsidies in place to regulate the cost of fuels that their citizens pay at the pump. Its not a free market system like we have here in the US where the price is directly connected to supply and demand.
Good points. Smart guy. - Og
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Gas prices will go down once the demand drops in Asia and other places in the world who can no longer afford to use it. Dont worry people!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMan
Gas prices will go down once the demand drops in Asia and other places in the world who can no longer afford to use it. Dont worry people!
The Asian's will have more money than us soon. Their economy is booming!

Could be in the near future, they will have to outsource jobs to the US.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by efuehrin
there was a guy around here that designed a carb that make cars get a lot better gas mileage about 20 years ago.

He sold out to an oil company. *****.

anyway some guys from new york approached him a few months ago and asked him for advice on a device they were inventing that was supposed to be a bolt on product that would double a cars MPG.

something about vaporizing the fuel before it is delivered to the cylinder.

supposedly this guy saw the plans and said it would work.

Maybe BS but hopfully not.

That's called "fuel injection"...

What next? That 200 MPG Pogue carburetor? You know, that Canadian dude that disappeared out of...embarrassment? I guess so.
 
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