Truck drivers taking a stand on diesel fuel cost

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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I'm with them and support them 100% but if it did start to hurt the economy, the govn't would step in. During the late 1800's many railroads refused to operate so the govn't stepped in and attached U.S. Mail cars to the trains and if they didn't move, they'd be interefering with U.S. Mail which is a felony. So either way, they're just hurting themselves. Kudos for trying, though. :o
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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This all might be true, but the recent spike in Diesel (which was cheaper than gas a year ago) is due to the recent "Cleaner Diesel" restrictions put into place. It's also the reason we still don't get a lot of diesel cars here in the states. Jeep pulled the diesel liberty because of the new clean emissions standards put on diesel vehicles.

Sure this has an affect; but, if our market was flooded with diesel cars, the price of diesel would go through the roof. The price of diesel used to not only be equal to that of gasoline; but considerably cheaper. The cleaner diesel requirements do not have nearly the impact that demand has caused over the last decade.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Personally, I'd like to see the speed limit drop again back to 55 mph everywhere. There's no reason to go 65 mph.
Spoken like someone who drives a V6.......
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Spoken like someone who drives a V6.......
I own a v8 also.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
The cleaner diesel requirements do not have nearly the impact that demand has caused over the last decade.
Except for the fact that the "clean" diesel has caused a dramatic decrease in fuel economy (as much as 40% in some cases) for pre 2007 vehicles, therefore increasing the demand drastically.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Except for the fact that the "clean" diesel has caused a dramatic decrease in fuel economy (as much as 40% in some cases) for pre 2007 vehicles, therefore increasing the demand drastically.
x2 on that...

Not to mention the rise in all the v8 cars/trucks/suvs these days too.

And the rise in individuals owning diesel trucks for nothing but show.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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And the rise in individuals owning diesel trucks for nothing but show.
I can't tell you how many guys in suits I see driving around in SuperDuty's down here in Texas. These guys likely never put more than a bag of groceries in the truck!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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I'm with them and support them 100% but if it did start to hurt the economy, the govn't would step in. During the late 1800's many railroads refused to operate so the govn't stepped in and attached U.S. Mail cars to the trains and if they didn't move, they'd be interefering with U.S. Mail which is a felony. So either way, they're just hurting themselves. Kudos for trying, though. :o
These guys are independents. The government can attach what they want, these guys can just quit, they don't have to work..The company drivers are going to have to probably forfeit this strike, but I would be curious to hear what the teamsters are saying, I am sure some union companies would like to hear a nationwide strike to lower company fuel cost
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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The Teamsters are aware of this strike..

http://freightteamsters.blogspot.com...fuel-cost.html
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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I can't tell you how many guys in suits I see driving around in SuperDuty's down here in Texas. These guys likely never put more than a bag of groceries in the truck!
x2

I see that around where I live... but not as much.

I know it's a big thing to own a King Ranch F350 diesel... but not even know what a cattle ranch is... let alone own one. Thus not needing a huge truck to haul themselves and some daily groceries in.

I see it as this little story...

Husband owns a F350 KR diesel, works for a firm, making 100k/year. Wife owns a Mustang GT, also making some serious cash. They don't own anything but a little house in suburbia. No trailers, no farm work, nothing for the need of a huge truck. Husband goes to work in his nice diesel, drives out about 50 miles to get to work. Wife, she goes to her job about 20 miles away. They both work desk jobs, both wear business attire. Workday is overwith, the husband and wife come home. They decide to go an eat out at an expensive restaurant. So they want to drive in style so more, so they take the F350. Drive about 25 miles to the restaurant. Eats and has a good time. They come back home. The husband says he needs to go to the store to pickup a lime for his tequila. So he takes the F350 to the store. 20 miles away. Comes back.

Now what do you get from this usual scenario?

I get the feeling like the guy doesn't need a diesel for sure. He drives too much with nothing on the truck. He might end up with a hydrostack issue eventually with the small amount of driving. Are they stupid? Why are they driving a huge truck when they got a small car? Stupidity x10.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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I see that around where I live... but not as much.

I know it's a big thing to own a King Ranch F350 diesel... but not even know what a cattle ranch is... let alone own one. Thus not needing a huge truck to haul themselves and some daily groceries in.

I see it as this little story...

Husband owns a F350 KR diesel, works for a firm, making 100k/year. Wife owns a Mustang GT, also making some serious cash. They don't own anything but a little house in suburbia. No trailers, no farm work, nothing for the need of a huge truck. Husband goes to work in his nice diesel, drives out about 50 miles to get to work. Wife, she goes to her job about 20 miles away. They both work desk jobs, both wear business attire. Workday is overwith, the husband and wife come home. They decide to go an eat out at an expensive restaurant. So they want to drive in style so more, so they take the F350. Drive about 25 miles to the restaurant. Eats and has a good time. They come back home. The husband says he needs to go to the store to pickup a lime for his tequila. So he takes the F350 to the store. 20 miles away. Comes back.

Now what do you get from this usual scenario?

I get the feeling like the guy doesn't need a diesel for sure. He drives too much with nothing on the truck. He might end up with a hydrostack issue eventually with the small amount of driving. Are they stupid? Why are they driving a huge truck when they got a small car? Stupidity x10.

You could say this about anything. My neighbor collects sports cars. he has Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Vets, Vipers and Mustangs. Does he need them?? No, but he has the cash to drive them, so why not. I think most everyone on here would take a F-350 KR if they had the money to burn?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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You could say this about anything. My neighbor collects sports cars. he has Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Vets, Vipers and Mustangs. Does he need them?? No, but he has the cash to drive them, so why not. I think most everyone on here would take a F-350 KR if they had the money to burn?
I'm not necessiarily talking about the rich people either... there are a lot of people out there that drive insane trucks, but make barely enough to buy food for themselves.

But I think there should be laws forbidding this.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150

But I think there should be laws forbidding this.

feds would get the picture.

The price of fuel does not need to be this high. For a changing global economy that relies heavily on the usage of oil and it's by products, they should know better than to hike the price to what it is now.

But I think there should be laws forbidding this.
Wow, Vladimir Ilyich and Karl would be proud... their legacy lives on.

Just what do you expect the feds to do about it? Other than the EPA and their detrimental policies, the feds have little control on the price of diesel. Just what do you expect "they" to do? I am assuming when you mention hiking prices you're talking about OPEC, since they're the ones who have the most control over prices at the pump.

You want to really lower the price of fuel? Then 2 things:
get more refineries built, and open more of our country up to exploration.

Alternative energy is great, in fact I probably use less non-renewable natural resources than most people. However, that is a choice made by me, driven by the free market. The govt has no business in this.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Wow, Vladimir Ilyich and Karl would be proud... their legacy lives on.

Just what do you expect the feds to do about it? Other than the EPA and their detrimental policies, the feds have little control on the price of diesel. Just what do you expect "they" to do? I am assuming when you mention hiking prices you're talking about OPEC, since they're the ones who have the most control over prices at the pump.

You want to really lower the price of fuel? Then 2 things:
get more refineries built, and open more of our country up to exploration.

Alternative energy is great, in fact I probably use less non-renewable natural resources than most people. However, that is a choice made by me, driven by the free market. The govt has no business in this.
I think I was too harsh...

But I think there should be something like a license or what not to operate larger vehicles, like F250s and F350s with diesels.

I'm sure if the requirement for driving a tractor trailer was a CDL license was removed, there would be a ton of rich people driving F650s around. But since they don't want to be hassled with it, they won't buy one.

Something along those lines...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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I think I was too harsh...

But I think there should be something like a license or what not to operate larger vehicles, like F250s and F350s with diesels.

I'm sure if the requirement for driving a tractor trailer was a CDL license was removed, there would be a ton of rich people driving F650s around. But since they don't want to be hassled with it, they won't buy one.

Something along those lines...
In Ontario, an F350 needs a periodic mandatory commercial vehicle inspection. In other words, it has to be safetied every year. Any truck that enters Ontario having a MGVWR of more than 4500 KG's must display proof of a safety within the last year. All provinces in Canada follow the same rules.
 
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