Question about a Middle Name
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Former President Carter's first name is James.
I have never heard him referred to as 'James', it was 'Jimmy' if the first name was used at all.
When he campaigned, before his election, during his presidency, and to this day.
No one ever thought to call him 'James'.
He was/is 'Jimmy'
Why is Obama not extended the same courtesy?
Because there is obvious political gain for opposition to do otherwise.
And seemingly innocent questions about the 'issue' is done tongue-in-cheek.
I have never heard him referred to as 'James', it was 'Jimmy' if the first name was used at all.
When he campaigned, before his election, during his presidency, and to this day.
No one ever thought to call him 'James'.
He was/is 'Jimmy'
Why is Obama not extended the same courtesy?
Because there is obvious political gain for opposition to do otherwise.
And seemingly innocent questions about the 'issue' is done tongue-in-cheek.
Probably because I'm too young (though not as young as you might thing) to think of James as a derogitory way to refer to someone. Or I missed the point and maybe because the media and others always refer to Barrack Obama as "Obama", should the individual just have said "Obama"? Would that have meant that "Barrack Obama" was not extending the same courtesy?
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
That makes perfect sense (the reason of political gain) and I agree, though the example of James and Jimmy makes no sense! Probably because I'm too you to think of James as a derogitory way to refer to someone. Or I missed the point and maybe because the media and others always refer to Barrack Obama as "Obama", should the individual just have said "Obama"? Would that have meant that "Barrack Obama" was not extending the same courtesy?
Probably because I'm too you to think of James as a derogitory way to refer to someone. Or I missed the point and maybe because the media and others always refer to Barrack Obama as "Obama", should the individual just have said "Obama"? Would that have meant that "Barrack Obama" was not extending the same courtesy?
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
...though the example of James and Jimmy makes no sense...... Or I missed the point and maybe because the media and others always refer to Barrack Obama as "Obama", should the individual just have said "Obama"? Would that have meant that "Barrack Obama" was not extending the same courtesy?
Nothing wrong with 'james'
What I meant was Jimmy Carter vice James Carter.
No big deal, right? It's what Carter preferred.
Why not just ask Barack what he prefers and end of story?
Well because there is is just too much the other side can profit from it.
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Originally Posted by Raoul
Sorry I wasn't clear, I was just saving on some typing.
Nothing wrong with 'james'
What I meant was Jimmy Carter vice James Carter.
No big deal, right? It's what Carter preferred.
Why not just ask Barack what he prefers and end of story?
Well because there is is just too much the other side can profit from it.
Nothing wrong with 'james'
What I meant was Jimmy Carter vice James Carter.
No big deal, right? It's what Carter preferred.
Why not just ask Barack what he prefers and end of story?
Well because there is is just too much the other side can profit from it.
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
Sounds good. Now all poor John McCain needs is a "controversial" middle name. Too bad it's not John Bundy McCain.
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
Sounds good. Now all poor John McCain needs is a "controversial" middle name. Too bad it's not John Bundy McCain.
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Great topic Duke.
Problem is, in a presidential race, every last skeleton you have is dug up. Sure Obama could have changed it, but someone would have dredged it up and accused him of hiding some secret Muslim agenda.
Now that being said, sometimes it's not always a bad idea.
Queen Victoria married a German. When tensions with Germany were running high leading up to World War 1, her grandson, George V changed the family name from House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (named after Albert, Prince of Saxe-Corburg & Gotha, Victoria's consort) to the current House of Windsor.
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Problem is, in a presidential race, every last skeleton you have is dug up. Sure Obama could have changed it, but someone would have dredged it up and accused him of hiding some secret Muslim agenda.
Now that being said, sometimes it's not always a bad idea.
Queen Victoria married a German. When tensions with Germany were running high leading up to World War 1, her grandson, George V changed the family name from House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (named after Albert, Prince of Saxe-Corburg & Gotha, Victoria's consort) to the current House of Windsor.
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
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The reason that Carter preferred Jimmy to James is because his middle name is Earl. He was afraid that people would think that James Earl Carter would sound too much like James Earl Ray. Just thought I'd throw that in.
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Originally Posted by ncstx
The reason that Carter preferred Jimmy to James is because his middle name is Earl. He was afraid that people would think that James Earl Carter would sound too much like James Earl Ray. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Maybe if Barack starts going by 'Barky' then everyone will forget about his middle name.
Problem solved.
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With the prices of oil, our enemies overseas, "global warming," and the future of America up ahead of us, I cannot believe people are so childish over something like a middle name. The quote in my sig is very funny, but true.
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Originally Posted by McLovin
... The quote in my sig is very funny, but true.
It might be because I just get in the shortest line.
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