I started this post in the engine thread with some great responses, but I should have started it here. My post continue below.
ow I used to blame Detroit for the mentality of all these idiots wanting "more power".
Now I am just irked. Why do so many here keep wanting more power, bigger truck, blah blah blah. I mean these are guys saying they support the troops and all this bull$h|t and yet they are the ones funding terrorism with the gas consumption!!! Where do you think the money comes from?!!!! What the hell is the purpose of owning a truck. Last time I checked it wasn't for a pissing contest. I mean the same idiots posting "how do I get better gas mileage" turn around and post "I can't wait for the 6.2L". WTF I ask you!!!!!!!!
You know, if we were really educated we would be debating things like:

How can we reduce drag and lower drag coefficients to make these vehicles
more practical?

How can we integrate hybrid systems that aren't so complicated?

How can we convince corporate America to build us a better vehicle?

How can we keep our money state side?

I like to know I can come here to get information that keeps my truck in tip top shape. I like the knowledge that can be found here. But this crap about bigger trucks and more power makes me think there are some ***** envy issues here. Maybe we should just boot the current sponsors and get ***** enlargement companies to support the site. Wouldn't that be great?!
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Every time I fill up Im supporting Jihad????

 

no kidding, is there a saturday morning cartoon version of fox news now?

 

I'm very happy with my little old V6 truck. More power would be nice, but it does the job very well the way it is. Better gas mileage would be nice, but I understand that it's a TRUCK.

If I were that hooked on having more power AND better gas mileage, I sure wouldn't be driving a full size pickup truck. I'd be driving a little riceburner. A Honda Civic will run circles around my truck and get twice the gas mileage.

 

and malexander, aside from your strange belief regarding gasoline and terrorism, i tend to pretty much agree that the whining and complaining about a perceived lack of power is puzzling to me as well...but so are a lot of things people do, and i'm sure i'm guilty of puzzling behavior as well

 

C'mon people... there is nothing wrong with being an enthusiast, however when I talk about change I mean serious change!
JMC, what is the purpose of your comment? Are all my other posts this "insightful"? I thought you were one of the more intelligent cats on this forum that would get what I was asking. This forum can be the catalyst for change. It is my understanding that because of people's "enthusiasm" site sponsors have implemented change and in many cases for the better. As for my "456" posts, there are plenty of them with errors, silly remarks, and insightful ramblings.... Just kidding about the insightful part.
There are people here who get decent mileage, but do you believe it is possible to get better by design rather than after market bolt ons?
Does anyone here know what percentage of an engines horsepower is used to overcome drag at highway speeds?
All I am asking is if anyone here has the ***** to think outside the box. I think everything I initially posted is valid and without error. You can NOT sit on both sides of the fence and many people seem to do that. I am trying to get people to choose the side.
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JBA 3.5" SISO Cat Back Exhaust
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3.08 no LS
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Originally Posted by jbrew
If your trying to inspire some sort of movement, you would have better luck on the crapper.

This is a truck forum, can't believe your trying this , HERE of all places. I bet if you look hard enough, you'll find a forum to relieve yourself of economical and political concerns. Seriously... No offense.

None taken my friend. Maybe I need a blunt right now. I have always romanticized the idea of the average joe standing up for more intelligent ideas while maintaining the objects they so very much enjoy (ergo our trucks).
Either way it seems as though I have pitched my idea to the masses with the least interest.
However I will laugh in the near future as more and more people post here about gas mileage and the price of gas and yet are not willing to discuss alternatives that can keep our much loved trucks on the road with out draining our savings away. Personally we are a six figure family and when gas is $5 a gallon we will still be able to pay our bills. Granted everything else will be more expensive because of the correlated increase in manufacturing and shipping costs, however WTF do I know.....

Now for that blunt..................i think its 4:20......almost
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JBA 3.5" SISO Cat Back Exhaust
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Originally Posted by JMC
Well malexander52, you got people thinking........ Unfortunately you picked the wrong place to start. We have a choice HP or MPG. I choose HP. You should post this in the Gen Discussion forum.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

Excellent point there my friend.
I think what is exceptional is that despite the fear of recession and a looming energy crisis, the basic mentality hasn't changed which can lead us to conclude several possibilities:

1.The cost of fuel is not that bad and going up another dollar (or equivalent) per gallon isn't really going to move anyone to change

2. There is no recession, only a ton of people incapable of making an educated decision (most plausible I think)

3. The amount of resources China and India are consuming isn't really going to affect the global availability of resources and is not going to affect it's price either................

Either way it was a wonderful way to get people to post their paradigm.
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Talk about talking out of both sides of your face.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...57#post2925057

Here you write......

"Now I am just irked. Why do so many here keep wanting more power, bigger truck, blah blah blah. I mean these are guys saying they support the troops and all this bull$h|t and yet they are the ones funding terrorism with the gas consumption!!! Where do you think the money comes from?!!!! What the hell is the purpose of owning a truck."

And

"How can we integrate hybrid systems that aren't so complicated?"



But two months ago you write...



"I'm a 30 year old family guy who loves anything that burns gas with a passion. I am an enthusiast but at the same time a realist. Hybrids, save the whales, anyone who says we are ion a state of global warming and chaos, I can show you otherwise. Anyone who thinks we can have the slightest affect on global warning is also poorly informed and mislead by government propoganda. As for bio diesel. I am all for bio fuels, NOT made from corn. There are mnay plants that are NOT edible that provide the same or MORE thermal energy when used to create bio diesel.I really hate this fuc|<ing topic because everyone is going to watch a michael moore, al gore, bull $h|t propoganda story.
The hell with it
You are all ****.................
Hybrid lovers that is."


WTF?


P.S. Im sitting here with my 4.2 looking at your 4.6 in absolute horror. How could you be so selfish and indulge in that extra 0.4 ? Shame on you.....


" Yes, Im being sarcastic"

 

Yea Hydrogen!
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Originally Posted by CRF250rider1000
I wish the US would push the hydrogen thing! That is a great solution but it just needs to get out there and really be pushed. The problem is hydrogen cars are not in production because currently no one has a hydrogen station down the street and everyone has expensive gas vehicles that would be useless if hydrogen would come into play. I really want to see the hydrogen vehicles starting to come into play here in the next ten years

Yea Hydrogen!
Hydrogen is a great alternative to fossil fuels for numerous reasons. What needs to be taken into consideration is the impact a shift in the energy infrastructure of a nation can have on the people who depend on such an infrastructure to make a living. It is however the responsibility of energy companies and auto manufacturers to seek more efficient and clean alternatives to powering our vehicles. It is our responsibility as good stewards of planet or "spaceship" earth as I like to call it, to be mindful of how we consume. That being said Millennium Cell Technologies is a company that has developed a hydrogen on demand system. One of the concerns with hydrogen technology is the storage of this highly combustible fuel source. In a hydrogen on demand system, the hydrogen is stored in a stable and inert borohydride solution (NaBH4).
MCEL (stock ticker) was awarded a contract from the US Air Force to produce a unit that would produce a continuous 300 watts of power for 12 hours. The package had to be rechargeable and weigh no more than 8 pounds. These power sources would be used to run electronics and medical equipment on the field. I imagine a system like this coupled to an electric motor would be a spectacular evolution in the transportation industry.

http://www.millenniumcell.com/fw/main/Overview-27.html

Quinton I am sorry for being an a$$ yesterday. Your remarks were warranted and well deserved.
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I am making two points here.
1. I love to burn fossil fuel as much as the next guy BUT BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT IT.
2. There are more practical ways to develop alternative fuels and we shouldn't allow corporate America to make all out decisions for us. This country was not founded in that manner and should not be perpetuated in that manner.

So how am I talking out of both sides of my face? Driving a truck is a responsibility and a privilege that we have here in the States. Everyone has a right to their enjoyment of such. But is there such a thing as too much?

Thank you for your reply by the way!!!!! Gosh reading that earlier post was just embarrassing, I was really bent out of shape that day!

 

Awesome
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OMG that pic is freakin hilarious!!! I sent it out to the guys at work and we are laughing our a$$es off! Thanks for the laughs friend!!!!!!

I cant seem to post it here but there is a knight rider picture with Hasslehoff and Gary Coleman and it says "congratulations on your gay thread"

 

to me the problem is not the v-8 or more power, the problem is that we have 1/2 ton trucks that weight 5500 pounds.
you being from the Houston Texas area should know, if you drive a small car you get bullied around or ran of the road.

the goal should be to produce a full size truck that has a weight of 4500 pounds or less. i have no idea but the 82 chevy, 84 ford and 90 chevy trucks i had were lighter than what is offered today.

 

As we can not affect the driving habits of others (unless you carry a firearm) this is definitely an issue. I think the lack of mass transit has everyone driving in this completely narcissistic manner in which they truly believe the road belongs to them and all other are subject to their stupidity. I have a fantastic example:

A month ago I was driving to work on 45 south just south of the woodlands. A gentleman in a nice volkswagen passat was getting on the freeway. I slowed to 55 to allow him to get on. He actaullay began to SLOW DOWN once he was in front of me...50...40...30......20..... and no one was in front of him. His head was down as he was looking for something. I merged onto the shoulder (recently widened for hurricane evacuation purposes) and passed the gentleman. I did not gun the engine, freak out, nada. I merely thought he was having trouble or lost and simply moved away.
A few minutes later he is hauling ***** in the left lane and then merging to the lane next to me. The window is down, he is giving me the finger and shouting profanities. On top of that, his outstretched middle finger is actually reaching across the chest of his passenger. His 10 year old (guessing) son that was reading and now looking at me with this look of horror as his father is freaking out and shouting obscenities at me. I merely looked at the man with contempt for his ignorance and proceeded upon my path whilst he chose to gun the car and speed off......

His attitude stupefied me and perhaps he felt like the "little car" being pushed around.
The trucks are very heavy and I too question if this is necessary. You would think it common knowledge that power to weight ratio is a hot commodity.

GO figure.

 

Technology comes with a price.

We want the safest vehicles with the strongest frames and be able to walk away in a crash...

I would dare not take an 80's model relative tin can with a swiss cheese frame if I had the choice.

But, I also want said vehicle to be easily repairable and not cost me a ton to do so when someone decides to slide from their left turn lane into mine for the hell of it and I can't stop in time. Aluminum is out.