Originally Posted by scott1981

"Made in America" at one time stood for pride, value & quality. Now people just associate it with over-inflated pricing. Yes I have no control over where the money goes, but common sense would tell you if the company has plants here, workers here, CEO's here that most of your money will stay in the place those people reside. I can tell you if I purchase good's from China or Japan once they pay off the few American workers here the money is going right back over sea's. When the American people supprted the American suppliers they had no reason to outsource, it was a circle of pride, growth and profit. Now with the American people turning a blind eye the companies have to do whatever it takes to survive.

Originally Posted by scott1981

"Do you think Ford is proud to have the Fusion made in Mexico? I highly doublt thats something they mention in the sales pitch or in the brochure.

Originally Posted by Bighersh

Why only cars though? Why not TV's, DVD/Blu-Ray players, Cell phones, PDA's, washers & dryers, computers, back packs, home theather systems, video games, etc...

There's a lot of disdain for Japanese cars, but everything else Japanese, Korean, German- etc- is embraced?

Why the hypocrisy? This isn't directed to anyone in particular- just a general question.

And please, no one try to tell me everything you own is made in America. If that's true, you don't own much.

Originally Posted by Bighersh

So, who here has the money to just give away? I don't, and I doubt many others do either. We all have limited funds, because if we didn't, many of us would be on Lamborghini.com, rather than F150online.com. So, to find a cheaper, probably better built (or perhaps not as well built) substitute for less money. Sure, people are going to buy that.

That's why Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi are the fastest growing nameplates sold in America. Why? Because many buy the most they can, for the least they can. They're good cars- so folks will feel like, Why pay $18,000 for a Cobalt, when I can pay $13,000 for a Spectra?

Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?

Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.

Everyday American's lose their jobs because our jobs are being sent overseas. In my job, a good 75% of the actual function from getign A to Z is done by workers in other countries. I'd liek to see American's do that work too. So, you know, the 25% that's left, is indeed worried about what tomorrow may hold. So, in times of dwindling jobs, and consumer confidence, people are going to settle for "that will do" rather than spend more.

If the Japanese sold gas here for $1.00 a gallon, I can tell you, @ $3.15 a gollon, Exxon/Mobile profits would dry up over night.

I'm not trying to steer anyone towards a Japanese car. Buy what you like. I'm just saying, the fact that it's hard to find American made products- if one is truly that patriotic- to the point that they won't even use foreign made products, then there is no excuse for having anything foreign made- from socks, to underwear, to pants, shirts, shoes, furniture, electronics, etc...

It's not funny to hear about folks keying Tundra's. No more than it was funny that tree huggers set V-8 engined trucks on fire on dealer lots a few years ago. Primary targets were Hummers and Excursions.

People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.

Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4

I swear he was hard that Toyota won and with Busch. H-mo

Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4

Well, ya, nobody should **** money away, but what happens when because of the frugalty, you have no job and therefore NO money? Nobody is safe in a bad economy, white collar and blue collar alike. People buy into the jappo cars bieng so superior (overrated hype) and Kia's, Hyandai's and whatever else (built overseas by slaves, run by communists) sold here. People are so cheap, they don't realize they are stabbing themselves in the back. That is a fact and it's getting worse.

Originally Posted by SMIGGS

Your right, at one time "Made in America" was viable, but it's been stated before about it being a global economy.

Originally Posted by Ford#1

Well on a happy note I found this story that the Tundra is going to be slowed in production, I just wish the story said it was going to END production.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business....4e7dd84a.html

Originally Posted by WantsAHemi

Thats not a bad thing buddy. With gas prices going up, truck sales are going down.

Toyota is NON-UNION, so they can cut back on production to insure the dealers are getting just enough to sell and be profitable.

The Union will have a hissy fit if GM/FORD cuts back on hours and production, thats why you always see GM and FORD having HUGE stockpiles of trucks on their lots since they are forced to overproduce and the dealers have to put 10s of thousands of dollars in incentives on unsold vehicles to move them at the end of the year. I guess thats good for the consumer but bad for the dealers and the company.

Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4

Yes, that's exactly what happens, stockpiling for the sake of the dear union. From someone who knows (ME), production levels at Ford do the exact same thing. Slowing sales= line adjustment. We use to produce 1100 engines a shift, 1300 woulda been great, but 1100 did the job, then 1000 then 900, see where this goes. Shifts got cut, laid off members yadda yadda. You seem to think the union has greater power than they do, by far. Put Ford and Toyota side by side and compare employee loyalties, Ford is way better, with or without a union "supposedly" making them. Toyota is already crying in Canada because the strong Canadian dollar, ready to jump ship. Ford, GM and Chrysler are doing worse and crying less about the dollar bieng high. The union is actually stepping up to the bat FOR THE COMPANIES against Federal government to enact trade policies. Wow, a union helping a company, go fu<king figure. Union and company fight the same fight against government, not this inner militia the union is portrayed as. Toyota sucks plain and simple, Nissan blows and Honda swallows.

Originally Posted by JBMX928

Hey! leave Nissan out of this