Toyota wins a NASCAR race
Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4
I think it's funny when even Toyota Tundra owners know they bought a piece of sh+t, the rest are denial cases. As big as they propped themselves up to be "the truck that changes everything" or whatever, they will be critisized and knocked down a few pegs. Toyota's are bland, boring and cheaply engineered and constructed. They are as innovative and exciting as a cardboard box on wheels.
Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4
So people hate Toyota, it's another sign of the beloved "Americana" that people still hold onto is bieng lost, American things forever. That, plus it's in alot of our blood.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Why only cars though? Why not TV's, DVD/Blu-Ray players, Cell phones, PDA's, washers & dryers, computers, back packs, home theather systems, video games, etc...
There's a lot of disdain for Japanese cars, but everything else Japanese, Korean, German- etc- is embraced?
Why the hypocrisy? This isn't directed to anyone in particular- just a general question.
And please, no one try to tell me everything you own is made in America. If that's true, you don't own much.
There's a lot of disdain for Japanese cars, but everything else Japanese, Korean, German- etc- is embraced?
Why the hypocrisy? This isn't directed to anyone in particular- just a general question.
And please, no one try to tell me everything you own is made in America. If that's true, you don't own much.
Oh and I check the "Made In" sticker in about everything I buy. Sometimes I pay double, sometimes sadly I dont have a choice. I do support the American worker in every aspect, not just in my choice of automobiles
Originally Posted by scott1981
I always have found this argument funny. Do you know why you can't go purchase these items listed above that are made in America? Because we all sold out and purchased this crap from China and Japan not caring about the long term effects but only wanting to save money.
That's why Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi are the fastest growing nameplates sold in America. Why? Because many buy the most they can, for the least they can. They're good cars- so folks will feel like, Why pay $18,000 for a Cobalt, when I can pay $13,000 for a Spectra?
Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?
Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
Everyday American's lose their jobs because our jobs are being sent overseas. In my job, a good 75% of the actual function from getign A to Z is done by workers in other countries. I'd liek to see American's do that work too. So, you know, the 25% that's left, is indeed worried about what tomorrow may hold. So, in times of dwindling jobs, and consumer confidence, people are going to settle for "that will do" rather than spend more.
If the Japanese sold gas here for $1.00 a gallon, I can tell you, @ $3.15 a gollon, Exxon/Mobile profits would dry up over night.
I'm not trying to steer anyone towards a Japanese car. Buy what you like. I'm just saying, the fact that it's hard to find American made products- if one is truly that patriotic- to the point that they won't even use foreign made products, then there is no excuse for having anything foreign made- from socks, to underwear, to pants, shirts, shoes, furniture, electronics, etc...
It's not funny to hear about folks keying Tundra's. No more than it was funny that tree huggers set V-8 engined trucks on fire on dealer lots a few years ago. Primary targets were Hummers and Excursions.
People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
yep, the ones I have on now, are about 3 years old. Starting to show signs of wear now...
I have two pair in the closet that are 8 - 9 years old, and still look new. I don't wear them mush because they're made of that suede looking leather, and you never know what TX weather is going to be like.
If I go to Kohl's, I can pick up a pair for $39 - $79 bucks.
I thought it'd be cheaper ordering them from the Sketcher's website (I don't know if they do that any more). The same shoe I saw at Kohl's for $59.00 was $109 on the Sketcher's website.
Pass...
I have two pair in the closet that are 8 - 9 years old, and still look new. I don't wear them mush because they're made of that suede looking leather, and you never know what TX weather is going to be like.
If I go to Kohl's, I can pick up a pair for $39 - $79 bucks.
I thought it'd be cheaper ordering them from the Sketcher's website (I don't know if they do that any more). The same shoe I saw at Kohl's for $59.00 was $109 on the Sketcher's website.
Pass...
All in all the Skechers are still perfect. Holding up great under my large 6'2" 330# body.
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?
Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
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Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
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Here is a list of US made cars..
http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/auto/2007/index.cfm
Originally Posted by Ford#1
Toyota imported more cars than they made here last year and all Toyota Hybrids are made in Japan. People seem to forget that Ford still builds almost all of their cars and trucks here with an exception for a few models. Ford sells a lot of Cars and trucks in CAN and MEX so there for they build them there. Sorry but I would rather drive a Mexican made Ford than a Toyota made here. Toyota can keep its cheap temp labor, that some Americans call jobs..
Here is a list of US made cars..
http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/auto/2007/index.cfm
Here is a list of US made cars..
http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/auto/2007/index.cfm
so the tacoma is UAW made
I posted that just for you man. Show some appreciation.
The pic you posted was from Dega last spring. He landed right in front of where I was camping in the turn 3 infield. That was awesome.
The pic you posted was from Dega last spring. He landed right in front of where I was camping in the turn 3 infield. That was awesome.
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
so the tacoma is UAW made 

Originally Posted by Bighersh
So, who here has the money to just give away? I don't, and I doubt many others do either. We all have limited funds, because if we didn't, many of us would be on Lamborghini.com, rather than F150online.com. So, to find a cheaper, probably better built (or perhaps not as well built) substitute for less money. Sure, people are going to buy that.
That's why Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi are the fastest growing nameplates sold in America. Why? Because many buy the most they can, for the least they can. They're good cars- so folks will feel like, Why pay $18,000 for a Cobalt, when I can pay $13,000 for a Spectra?
Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?
Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
Everyday American's lose their jobs because our jobs are being sent overseas. In my job, a good 75% of the actual function from getign A to Z is done by workers in other countries. I'd liek to see American's do that work too. So, you know, the 25% that's left, is indeed worried about what tomorrow may hold. So, in times of dwindling jobs, and consumer confidence, people are going to settle for "that will do" rather than spend more.
If the Japanese sold gas here for $1.00 a gallon, I can tell you, @ $3.15 a gollon, Exxon/Mobile profits would dry up over night.
I'm not trying to steer anyone towards a Japanese car. Buy what you like. I'm just saying, the fact that it's hard to find American made products- if one is truly that patriotic- to the point that they won't even use foreign made products, then there is no excuse for having anything foreign made- from socks, to underwear, to pants, shirts, shoes, furniture, electronics, etc...
It's not funny to hear about folks keying Tundra's. No more than it was funny that tree huggers set V-8 engined trucks on fire on dealer lots a few years ago. Primary targets were Hummers and Excursions.
People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.
That's why Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi are the fastest growing nameplates sold in America. Why? Because many buy the most they can, for the least they can. They're good cars- so folks will feel like, Why pay $18,000 for a Cobalt, when I can pay $13,000 for a Spectra?
Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?
Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
Everyday American's lose their jobs because our jobs are being sent overseas. In my job, a good 75% of the actual function from getign A to Z is done by workers in other countries. I'd liek to see American's do that work too. So, you know, the 25% that's left, is indeed worried about what tomorrow may hold. So, in times of dwindling jobs, and consumer confidence, people are going to settle for "that will do" rather than spend more.
If the Japanese sold gas here for $1.00 a gallon, I can tell you, @ $3.15 a gollon, Exxon/Mobile profits would dry up over night.
I'm not trying to steer anyone towards a Japanese car. Buy what you like. I'm just saying, the fact that it's hard to find American made products- if one is truly that patriotic- to the point that they won't even use foreign made products, then there is no excuse for having anything foreign made- from socks, to underwear, to pants, shirts, shoes, furniture, electronics, etc...
It's not funny to hear about folks keying Tundra's. No more than it was funny that tree huggers set V-8 engined trucks on fire on dealer lots a few years ago. Primary targets were Hummers and Excursions.
People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
So, who here has the money to just give away? I don't, and I doubt many others do either. We all have limited funds, because if we didn't, many of us would be on Lamborghini.com, rather than F150online.com. So, to find a cheaper, probably better built (or perhaps not as well built) substitute for less money. Sure, people are going to buy that.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
That's why Kia, Hyundai, and Mitsubishi are the fastest growing nameplates sold in America. Why? Because many buy the most they can, for the least they can. They're good cars- so folks will feel like, Why pay $18,000 for a Cobalt, when I can pay $13,000 for a Spectra?
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Foreign effort goes into American made products (The Fusion is made in Mexico)- and yes, while I know that is on the same continent, it's not the same country- so, where do we draw the line?.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Toyota builds Camry's and Tundra's in the US. Those are American's in those plants. Same for Honda with the Accord, Same for Nissan with the Titan, Armada, QX56, and Altima. Same for BMW with the X class, and Mercedes with the ML.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
Everyday American's lose their jobs because our jobs are being sent overseas. In my job, a good 75% of the actual function from getign A to Z is done by workers in other countries. I'd liek to see American's do that work too. So, you know, the 25% that's left, is indeed worried about what tomorrow may hold. So, in times of dwindling jobs, and consumer confidence, people are going to settle for "that will do" rather than spend more..
Originally Posted by Bighersh
If the Japanese sold gas here for $1.00 a gallon, I can tell you, @ $3.15 a gollon, Exxon/Mobile profits would dry up over night.
Originally Posted by Bighersh
I'm not trying to steer anyone towards a Japanese car. Buy what you like. I'm just saying, the fact that it's hard to find American made products- if one is truly that patriotic- to the point that they won't even use foreign made products, then there is no excuse for having anything foreign made- from socks, to underwear, to pants, shirts, shoes, furniture, electronics, etc....
Originally Posted by Bighersh
It's not funny to hear about folks keying Tundra's. No more than it was funny that tree huggers set V-8 engined trucks on fire on dealer lots a few years ago. Primary targets were Hummers and Excursions.
People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.
People don't deserve to have their property vandalized, by idiotic kids/adults/tree-huggers- who don't share their sense of style.
Originally Posted by scott1981
Sorry but I hardly feel supporting your country and its economy is "giving away" money. Our dollar is on the steady decline, maybe if some people looked at the big picture rather than just a bank account balance they would realize that supporting the local workers and companies will only make our economy stronger and will increase the value of YOUR dollar. If the dollar was worth more on the open market and more consumers purchased from American companies the price would drop.
As for the price dropping for supporting American companies, do you have an example of this? I highly doubt that a company is going to start dropping prices because of an increase in demand. ( we all know how that works when you have to fill your truck with gas...)
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
I appreicate where you are coming from here but you have to realize one thing. You have NO CONTROL where your money goes within that American company you are supporting. ( unless you are a shareholder ) I would find it very hard to believe that a company would remain patriotic to a country when it can set up shop somewhere else and relativly close for much less. ( aka Mexico )
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
As for the price dropping for supporting American companies, do you have an example of this? I highly doubt that a company is going to start dropping prices because of an increase in demand. ( we all know how that works when you have to fill your truck with gas...)



