Attacked by a cop on a dark road

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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The officer tried to pull her over for 16 minutes!! Her phone showed she made NO calls to her husband or 911 like she claimed. I'd say the officer had restraint for 16 minutes and that was too long. When you don't do as law enforcement asks BAD THINGS HAPPEN. If a police officer tells you to bark like a dog.... get to barking!!! Do as they say and dispute it later.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
Nope.
Agreed.

At least this report has some accuracy to it.

On the other hand, if J.D. Tuccille (author of article in my first post) had written it, I suspect it would've been a rather one sided story.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Yup he's a real badass, what is that 3 on 1, 4 on 1?
Nope.

1:1: notice the winged wheel on the Deputy's left arm? (That's the one applying a cross-brachial restraint). That wing signifies he is a Motor Officer.

See the top of the boot and left knee, tucked in close beside the left elbow? That shows the Deputy has placed his body weight directly above the small of the arrestees back, the most effect place to use the Deputy's body weight against an even larger opponent.

And you are correct about one thing, rolled eyes or not:

he's a real badass
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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It seems to me that if your going 15 miles an hour over the speed limit and you see lights behind you, You should probably assume that you got caught.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Not sure if anyone noticed this, but in the article he mentions that a "nearby" county posts those three listed suggestion for citizens to remember. Problems is, the lady probably wasn't in this county, and if memory serves correct, the Sherrif was not from that county either. Was he excessive in how in handled the situation? Possibly. Was his judgement impaired by the power behind his badge? Probably not. The fact is, she did not pull over when she was supposed to do so. If she had any fear of being attacked on a dark road in the first place, then why speed? Was she trying to set him up? She may be able to get a great lawyer to prove her side of the story, but I doubt she'd get a huge settlement back.

Sometimes, you have to put yourself in the shoes of a cop. Most of them have good intentions when they sign up, and still some I believe use it as leverage. They have a lot to fear! The lady might have been scared for her life, but what about the cop? Perhaps he feared this situation could prove deadly for him. It's a risk you take when you become law enforcement, but then again, most cops aren't gonna tell you they're ready to die at the hand of some ingnorant individual who has NO regard for their life and the life of others.


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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=2TiMtDhiJ2o
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OnBelay
Nope.

1:1: notice the winged wheel on the Deputy's left arm? (That's the one applying a cross-brachial restraint). That wing signifies he is a Motor Officer.

See the top of the boot and left knee, tucked in close beside the left elbow? That shows the Deputy has placed his body weight directly above the small of the arrestees back, the most effect place to use the Deputy's body weight against an even larger opponent.

And you are correct about one thing, rolled eyes or not:
I guess your a cop. I was going to run my mouth, but figure your job is probably thankless enough as it. I just get very frustrated when I'm pulled over by a rude, overweight officer who want's to give me a 15 minute lecture about speeding. Seem's as though many have a chip on the ol' shoulder and just likes to make your life miserable for the smallest of offences. I pay all my tickers, my vehicles are registered and insured and my light's are checked weekly. Other than a couple tickets a year I am the ideal citizen, you would they they would be a little nicer to those who do things properly
 

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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To give some background to my comments about wanting my wife and sisters to keep driving if their is any doubt, I grew up in Detroit and there are alot of stories about "bad guys" impersonating cops.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by churchsredtruck
To give some background to my comments about wanting my wife and sisters to keep driving if their is any doubt, I grew up in Detroit and there are alot of stories about "bad guys" impersonating cops.
I wouldn't stop for someone that looked identical to my mother standing in the middle of the road trying to flag me down, if it was in Detroit
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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...I just get very frustrated when I'm pulled over by a rude, overweight officer who want's to give me a 15 minute lecture about speeding. Seem's as though many have a chip on the ol' shoulder and just likes to make your life miserable for the smallest of offences.
I've said it before in this forum, and I'll say it again:

What you perceive to be a "chip on the shoulder" or an "**** of a cop" is quite often a purposeful technique. By exercising complete control over the situation, an officer has the ability to make sure that he and everyone else are in as safe and secure an environment as possible. An officer doesn't know if they are going to deal with a soccer mom and her three screaming kids, or a 32 year old woman who's been tweaking on meth for three weeks and thinks the cop's face is melting. He doesn't know if the high school kid in the car is driving fast because he needs to take a leak or because he just decided to steal his stepfather's AK-47 and go shoot up that teacher at school that embarrassed him. Maybe that's a business man going to Hooters for lunch, and maybe it's a soldier just back from deployment suffering from PTSD and holding a loaded .45 just out of sight. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to know that there is a law enforcement officer out there who has seen every one of these examples, and more than you could ever dream of.

My point is that an officer has to go in at full alert, full throttle until he knows he doesn't need to be that way. A lecture on speeding might be his way of easing down from full bore adrenalin.

The officer that doesn't approach every situation as a possible threat is the officer who isn't going home some day. I'm not making excuses, I'm proposing a possible reason that you might understand.

Other than a couple tickets a year I am the ideal citizen, you would they they would be a little nicer to those who do things properly
Believe me, it's appreciated. I know I'm gonna sound like a **** again, but: if you were "doing things properly", to use your words...would the officer have a reason to stop you? Would you get those "couple tickets a year"? Contrary to popular belief, there is no quota system, there is no great desire to stop you just to **** you off...Most LEOs have more than enough to do, and if you're getting stopped, it's because they have a reason to talk with you.

But thanks for trying to see there are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and what really happened.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Believe me, it's appreciated. I know I'm gonna sound like a **** again, but: if you were "doing things properly", to use your words...would the officer have a reason to stop you? Would you get those "couple tickets a year"?
To play the devil's advocate, you're also well aware that there always a few bad apples. As in any organization, there are always those that are less professional than others.

Although the professionals far outnumber the bad apples, it takes far less bad apples to ruin the reputation of an entire organization.

It's one thing to treat somebody with respect, but treating somebody with disrespect should be earned first, if ya know what I mean.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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It's one thing to treat somebody with respect, but treating somebody with disrespect should be earned first, if ya know what I mean.
This was more of my point... Everyone here speeds, it is all a matter of if you get caught or not. I don't mind paying my due's when busted, but I don't need a lecture for going 5 MPH over.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Believe me, it's appreciated. I know I'm gonna sound like a **** again, but: if you were "doing things properly", to use your words...would the officer have a reason to stop you?
I got stopped the other day in my car. The LEO didn't have any reason to pull me over, he said that I was suspicious and in a suspicious vehicle.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by OnBelay
I've said it before in this forum, and I'll say it again:

What you perceive to be a "chip on the shoulder" or an "**** of a cop" is quite often a purposeful technique. By exercising complete control over the situation, an officer has the ability to make sure that he and everyone else are in as safe and secure an environment as possible. An officer doesn't know if they are going to deal with a soccer mom and her three screaming kids, or a 32 year old woman who's been tweaking on meth for three weeks and thinks the cop's face is melting. He doesn't know if the high school kid in the car is driving fast because he needs to take a leak or because he just decided to steal his stepfather's AK-47 and go shoot up that teacher at school that embarrassed him. Maybe that's a business man going to Hooters for lunch, and maybe it's a soldier just back from deployment suffering from PTSD and holding a loaded .45 just out of sight. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to know that there is a law enforcement officer out there who has seen every one of these examples, and more than you could ever dream of.

My point is that an officer has to go in at full alert, full throttle until he knows he doesn't need to be that way. A lecture on speeding might be his way of easing down from full bore adrenalin.

The officer that doesn't approach every situation as a possible threat is the officer who isn't going home some day. I'm not making excuses, I'm proposing a possible reason that you might understand.



Believe me, it's appreciated. I know I'm gonna sound like a **** again, but: if you were "doing things properly", to use your words...would the officer have a reason to stop you? Would you get those "couple tickets a year"? Contrary to popular belief, there is no quota system, there is no great desire to stop you just to **** you off...Most LEOs have more than enough to do, and if you're getting stopped, it's because they have a reason to talk with you.

But thanks for trying to see there are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and what really happened.
If they don't act in a professional manner then they need to take off the gun and badge. They are not one bit better than anybody else. Hell half of them are nothing but corrupt thugs with a badge. You ever read about prohibition and the corruption? The only thing that has changed is they have become more sophisticated. How do you think all the dope gets into this country? Yeah them and their brotherhood of silence. Covering up for other Cops they know are dirty.

Maybe your bull flies with naive people who don't know, or want to know, the truth behind the system. I've known Cops who talked about killing people for the fun of it. If they are not held responsible and taken to account you'll soon see the new *****.
 

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