To flash, or not to flash, for cops?

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by neuspeed5
I haven't written this ticket, but here in California, this is the code I would be using. It would have no problem in court either.

Use of Multiple Beams

24409. Whenever a motor vehicle is being operated during darkness, the driver shall use a distribution of light, or composite beam, directed high enough and of sufficient intensity to reveal persons and vehicles at a safe distance in advance of the vehicle, subject to the following requirements and limitations:

(a) Whenever the driver of a vehicle approaches an oncoming vehicle within 500 feet, he shall use a distribution of light or composite beam so aimed that the glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver.

The lowermost distribution of light specified in this article shall be deemed to avoid glare at all times regardless of road contour.

(b) Whenever the driver of a vehicle follows another vehicle within 300 feet to the rear, he shall use the lowermost distribution of light specified in this article.
Amended Ch. 37, Stats. 1965. Effective September 17, 1965.
We have a similar law (very similar) in the Ontario Highway Traffic Act. If you charged me with that, I'd be seeing you in court in a heartbeat. First off, you'd only be able to lay that charge at night, and even then, the section you quoted is strictly in regards to use of high beams when passing, and basic high beams ettiquette (sp?).
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by J-150
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Of course, the other charges could include "aiding and abetting", "interferring with during the course of their duties" etc. I'm sure those carry much heavier fines than a moving violation.

Aiding and abetting is no fine. It's handcuffs...LOL Arresting and charging somebody under the Criminal Code of Canada may be a little on the extreme side to nail someone for flashing head lights or high beams .
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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(2) No person shall use highbeam headlamps that produce alternating flashes of white light on any vehicle other than a vehicle referred to in subsection
Luckily mine are Blue-ish
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Aiding and abetting is no fine. It's handcuffs...LOL Arresting and charging somebody under the Criminal Code of Canada may be a little on the extreme side to nail someone for flashing head lights or high beams .
Yeah really.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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I do it, I don't do it when I see someone acting like a jackass and HAULING *** than they deserve it.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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depending on what kind of car and how fast they are going i flash

It seems like i remember a couple of years ago i read somewhere a kid flashed his lights, got a ticket for it and fought it and won because it fell under freedom of speech. kinda stretching speech if you ask me but who knows!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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I wonder what the law here in TX says about it. I'm to lazy to look it up.

I have heard over the years that you CAN get a ticket for flashing to warn on coming traffic, but I'm not sure what the letter of the law is. Personally I think it is complete BS to ticket someone for warning others. Some cops here use trapping tactics that are questionable at best. I once heard that if they are parked on the side of the road running radar at night, they have to have parking lights on so you can see them. I'm not sure if that is the law, but I see them radaring w/out lights on all the time.

Any one want to drop some facts on me?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ktexas
I once heard that if they are parked on the side of the road running radar at night, they have to have parking lights on so you can see them. I'm not sure if that is the law, but I see them radaring w/out lights on all the time.

Any one want to drop some facts on me?
No facts here, but rather my two cents. I'm not familiar with TX laws, but I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that there is no law stating emergency vehicles must have parking lights on when conducting a laser/radar blitz. I do however believe that what you've heard is indeed true, but it's more than likely the departments "policy" that they use lights at night.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HHIFX4
depending on what kind of car and how fast they are going i flash

It seems like i remember a couple of years ago i read somewhere a kid flashed his lights, got a ticket for it and fought it and won because it fell under freedom of speech. kinda stretching speech if you ask me but who knows!
What does the type of vehicle have to do with your decision to flash or not?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Grubrunner
What does the type of vehicle have to do with your decision to flash or not?
Perhaps if it's an import he doesn't warn them?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Perhaps if it's an import he doesn't warn them?
Perhaps.

But, do you have any idea how many vehicles that equates to on the roads?

Mindboggling...



Anyway, just for the record, I'm with what Thumper said a little earlier.

Some people gotta' find out the hard way.

The type of vehicle has no bearing whatsoever on my decision.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ktexas
I wonder what the law here in TX says about it. I'm to lazy to look it up.

I have heard over the years that you CAN get a ticket for flashing to warn on coming traffic, but I'm not sure what the letter of the law is. Personally I think it is complete BS to ticket someone for warning others. Some cops here use trapping tactics that are questionable at best. I once heard that if they are parked on the side of the road running radar at night, they have to have parking lights on so you can see them. I'm not sure if that is the law, but I see them radaring w/out lights on all the time.

Any one want to drop some facts on me?
Studies have shown that if you're parked on the side of the road at night you should turn 'off' all lights for safety. Lit-up taillights are the natural target for traffic... especially drunk drivers.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07Harley
Studies have shown that if you're parked on the side of the road at night you should turn 'off' all lights for safety. Lit-up taillights are the natural target for traffic... especially drunk drivers.
A little off topic but, Ontario police cruisers are in the process of changing the lights to blue strobes, much like most American cruisers, because studies have confirmed that red strobes, which have always been in use here, actually attract drunks more than blue.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
A little off topic but, Ontario police cruisers are in the process of changing the lights to blue strobes, much like most American cruisers, because studies have confirmed that red strobes, which have always been in use here, actually attract drunks more than blue.
Hmmm! I've always liked the blue over the red!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyd2723
Hmmm! I've always liked the blue over the red!
So much for that study
 
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