Heath Ledger
Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Belushi, Farley, Hendrix, Van morrison, Truman Copote, Billie Holiday, Janis joplin, and Edgar Allen Poe all crack heads ? ? Might want to use a better choice in words.
If you don't like drugs, don't listen to music or read poetry.
If you don't like drugs, don't listen to music or read poetry.
I will guarentee 99% of musicians, poets, song writers, performers, and entertainers have done drugs.
At one point I am sure they had a prescription for a pain killer. I am sure they smoked pot, and inhaled ! And I think it is safe to assume damn near all of them drank alcohol and/or smoked/chewed tobacco. It human nature my friend. What if Edgar Allen Poe couldn't write his poems with out the use of his Absinthe, then we would lose out on some of the most famous and well know poems of all time. What if the Beatles never used drugs ? We may not have rock and roll today, and most likely never would have heard of them. Hendrix could ONLY perform while under the "grip" of LSD.
Did you know all of Sigmund Freud's studies were done while under the influence of cocaine ? His studies (although bizar) paved the way for psychology as we know it.
Sherlock Holmes was also famous for injecting cocaine. I don't think i need to explain everything he contributed.
Drugs are not evil, in fact some are good for you (aspirin, vicadin, valium, Dayquil, Nyquil, marijuana, etc) and some may be harmful to you, but may also allow you to expand you mind and do things you can't sober.
Lastly, I was just sicked with you by calling him a "crack head" . I may be old school, but show some respect for the deceased, show some class. You don't know him, nor do you know his problems/struggles and who are you to judge him as a "crack head" ? With his money, I think its safe to say he never smoked any crack... at least get the terminology right.
At one point I am sure they had a prescription for a pain killer. I am sure they smoked pot, and inhaled ! And I think it is safe to assume damn near all of them drank alcohol and/or smoked/chewed tobacco. It human nature my friend. What if Edgar Allen Poe couldn't write his poems with out the use of his Absinthe, then we would lose out on some of the most famous and well know poems of all time. What if the Beatles never used drugs ? We may not have rock and roll today, and most likely never would have heard of them. Hendrix could ONLY perform while under the "grip" of LSD.
Did you know all of Sigmund Freud's studies were done while under the influence of cocaine ? His studies (although bizar) paved the way for psychology as we know it.
Sherlock Holmes was also famous for injecting cocaine. I don't think i need to explain everything he contributed.
Drugs are not evil, in fact some are good for you (aspirin, vicadin, valium, Dayquil, Nyquil, marijuana, etc) and some may be harmful to you, but may also allow you to expand you mind and do things you can't sober.
Lastly, I was just sicked with you by calling him a "crack head" . I may be old school, but show some respect for the deceased, show some class. You don't know him, nor do you know his problems/struggles and who are you to judge him as a "crack head" ? With his money, I think its safe to say he never smoked any crack... at least get the terminology right.
Last edited by MercedesTech; Feb 6, 2008 at 11:30 PM.
Originally Posted by MercedesTech
I will guarentee 99% of musicians, poets, song writers, performers, and entertainers have done drugs.
At one point I am sure they had a prescription for a pain killer. I am sure they smoked pot, and inhaled ! And I think it is safe to assume damn near all of them drank alcohol and/or smoked/chewed tobacco. It human nature my friend. What if Edgar Allen Poe couldn't write his poems with out the use of his Absinthe, then we would lose out on some of the most famous and well know poems of all time. What if the Beatles never used drugs ? We may not have rock and roll today, and most likely never would have heard of them. Hendrix could ONLY perform while under the "grip" of LSD.
Did you know all of Sigmund Freud's studies were done while under the influence of cocaine ? His studies (although bizar) paved the way for psychology as we know it.
Sherlock Holmes was also famous for injecting cocaine. I don't think i need to explain everything he contributed.
Drugs are not evil, in fact some are good for you (aspirin, vicadin, valium, Dayquil, Nyquil, marijuana, etc) and some may be harmful to you, but may also allow you to expand you mind and do things you can't sober.
Lastly, I was just sicked with you by calling him a "crack head" . I may be old school, but show some respect for the deceased, show some class. You don't know him, nor do you know his problems/struggles and who are you to judge him as a "crack head" ? With his money, I think its safe to say he never smoked any crack... at least get the terminology right.
At one point I am sure they had a prescription for a pain killer. I am sure they smoked pot, and inhaled ! And I think it is safe to assume damn near all of them drank alcohol and/or smoked/chewed tobacco. It human nature my friend. What if Edgar Allen Poe couldn't write his poems with out the use of his Absinthe, then we would lose out on some of the most famous and well know poems of all time. What if the Beatles never used drugs ? We may not have rock and roll today, and most likely never would have heard of them. Hendrix could ONLY perform while under the "grip" of LSD.
Did you know all of Sigmund Freud's studies were done while under the influence of cocaine ? His studies (although bizar) paved the way for psychology as we know it.
Sherlock Holmes was also famous for injecting cocaine. I don't think i need to explain everything he contributed.
Drugs are not evil, in fact some are good for you (aspirin, vicadin, valium, Dayquil, Nyquil, marijuana, etc) and some may be harmful to you, but may also allow you to expand you mind and do things you can't sober.
Lastly, I was just sicked with you by calling him a "crack head" . I may be old school, but show some respect for the deceased, show some class. You don't know him, nor do you know his problems/struggles and who are you to judge him as a "crack head" ? With his money, I think its safe to say he never smoked any crack... at least get the terminology right.
have you ever read any Sherlock Holmes ? (i was being sarcastic... I guess online is a bad place for that)
"Sherlock Holmes took his hypodermic syringe from its neat morocco case. With his long, white, nervous fingers he adjusted the delicate needle, and rolled back his left shirt cuff...the sinewy forearm and wrist, all dotted and scarred with innumerable puncture-marks...sank back into the velvet lined armchair with a long sigh of satisfaction." The Sign Of Four
I know... i'm a nerd. But I like the stories.
ok, back to my drug use and hitting my books.
and maybe Heath took too many of a certain combo, not trying to die, just trying to have a nice night. Maybe there was some kind of chemical reaction. Point is, you don't know, your getting the "facts" from the media. Has the actual toxicology report been published ?
Oh, and everyone else I mentioned abused their drug. Didn't just "try" it.
"Sherlock Holmes took his hypodermic syringe from its neat morocco case. With his long, white, nervous fingers he adjusted the delicate needle, and rolled back his left shirt cuff...the sinewy forearm and wrist, all dotted and scarred with innumerable puncture-marks...sank back into the velvet lined armchair with a long sigh of satisfaction." The Sign Of Four
I know... i'm a nerd. But I like the stories.
ok, back to my drug use and hitting my books.
and maybe Heath took too many of a certain combo, not trying to die, just trying to have a nice night. Maybe there was some kind of chemical reaction. Point is, you don't know, your getting the "facts" from the media. Has the actual toxicology report been published ?
Oh, and everyone else I mentioned abused their drug. Didn't just "try" it.
Speaking of Absinthe it's back on the market in the States. I tried it and it has a pretty strong Black licorice flavor and I believe it's 105 proof. For me the flavor was a little too much, not that I wouldn't drink it if nothing else was around.
how was the "trip" ? I hve heard the stuff released into the states isn't nearly as strong as over in Europe (Amsterdam). Thats the only place I have dabbled in it... have yet to try it since the re-release here in the US
s2krn: Would someone who overdosed on water be a "crack head" ?
What about someone addicted to working out, and they work them selves to death ?
(honestly curious to whatcha think on those cases. and yes, both have happened and no, no sarcasm this time )
What about someone addicted to working out, and they work them selves to death ?
(honestly curious to whatcha think on those cases. and yes, both have happened and no, no sarcasm this time )
Originally Posted by MercedesTech
s2krn: Would someone who overdosed on water be a "crack head" ?
What about someone addicted to working out, and they work them selves to death ?
(honestly curious to whatcha think on those cases. and yes, both have happened and no, no sarcasm this time )
What about someone addicted to working out, and they work them selves to death ?
(honestly curious to whatcha think on those cases. and yes, both have happened and no, no sarcasm this time )
Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
We'll never kow for sure. After the first few pills he might have been so whacked out he lost track of what he had taken. From what I've head, this can happen on sleeping pills and other 'downers'. Also, since there is no known suicide note or history of attempted suicide it would seem accidental. No known evidence that he spent his last day arranging his estate, saying goodbyes, etc...
From the news story I saw, he had six drugs in his system. They included the generics for two powerful pain killers (oxycontin was one), two sleeping pills, as well as xanax and valium.
IMO, he was addicted to drugs and was used to mixing them. But he either lost track or was trying to push the envelope. Either way, he was playing with fire but it would stll be considered by most as an accidental death.
From the news story I saw, he had six drugs in his system. They included the generics for two powerful pain killers (oxycontin was one), two sleeping pills, as well as xanax and valium.
IMO, he was addicted to drugs and was used to mixing them. But he either lost track or was trying to push the envelope. Either way, he was playing with fire but it would stll be considered by most as an accidental death.
Originally Posted by MercedesTech
how was the "trip" ? I hve heard the stuff released into the states isn't nearly as strong as over in Europe (Amsterdam). Thats the only place I have dabbled in it... have yet to try it since the re-release here in the US
the stufff in the US isn't really Absinthe. It's absinthe flavored alcohol. The stuff in Eurpoe is really weak Absinthe.
The Absinthe that Poe and other 18th century artisnas would have taken was so strong it could cause psychotic episodes.
Originally Posted by J-150
the stufff in the US isn't really Absinthe. It's absinthe flavored alcohol. The stuff in Eurpoe is really weak Absinthe.
The Absinthe that Poe and other 18th century artisnas would have taken was so strong it could cause psychotic episodes.
The Absinthe that Poe and other 18th century artisnas would have taken was so strong it could cause psychotic episodes.
Originally Posted by Stealth
They just call it "accidental overdose" to appease the families. He may as well have been committing suicide. What sane peson would take that many pills? An insane one.



