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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
Yes it does. I know for sure, because my '99 had one. So does my '00 Dakota.
makes me want to put this in there and take the computer out

http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_5.htm
 

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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what year did they start that?
1982 in production vehicles..
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
We are talking about this:




If anyone can guess what this is... I'll give you a cookie... because I bet you use this once a day! (In fact, I can bet you use it everyday of your measly little lives...)
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
We are talking about this:




If anyone can guess what this is... I'll give you a cookie... because I bet you use this once a day! (In fact, I can bet you use it everyday of your measly little lives...)


this is the formula to calculate how many squares of toilet paper based on how many grams of poo to properly eliminate racing stripes
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ManualF150
We are talking about this:




If anyone can guess what this is... I'll give you a cookie... because I bet you use this once a day! (In fact, I can bet you use it everyday of your measly little lives...)
Easy. It's the posterior distribution of the binomial parameter (i.e., Bayes theory applied to the binomial distribution).

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLongerJeepin
why would you want to disable that?
Various reasons. Look at it this way. If you were involved in an accident and someone was seriously injured, that little black box is basically a journal of all of your driving habits. If you speed all the time, brake really hard, abuse your vehicle, etc... all of this is recorded.

So if an accident investigation is warrented, they may pull the data from your vehicle to see what your driving habits are like, especially if a lawsuit was to ever come of it.

Insurance companies can also use that information to see how much of a "risk" you are and determine what your insurance should cost, although I haven't heard of this happening to anyone I know, but it is possible.

It's just another way for "the man" to keep close tabs on you and use that info if needed. Just like recording every cell phone call that is made. Maybe not the best analogy but you get the idea.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Various reasons. Look at it this way. If you were involved in an accident and someone was seriously injured, that little black box is basically a journal of all of your driving habits. If you speed all the time, brake really hard, abuse your vehicle, etc... all of this is recorded.

So if an accident investigation is warrented, they may pull the data from your vehicle to see what your driving habits are like, especially if a lawsuit was to ever come of it.

Insurance companies can also use that information to see how much of a "risk" you are and determine what your insurance should cost, although I haven't heard of this happening to anyone I know, but it is possible.

It's just another way for "the man" to keep close tabs on you and use that info if needed. Just like recording every cell phone call that is made. Maybe not the best analogy but you get the idea.
You are completely ignoring the fact that fuel trims, operating temperatures, transmission shift points, and numerous other parts other driveability "habits" are learned by this computer, so that the truck can offer the best performance under the current operating conditions.

If you're that concerned about how you are driving right before a crash, be sure to take out all the eye witnesses and any possible background information available (like the tuner you attached, the higher-speed rated tires you installed, any other performance mods) as well as participation in any internet website that advocates the installation of performance mods, any comments you ever make on a website regarding a speeding ticket you got, your entire driver history, even credit card receipts for that night of fun going to the go cart track...where you gonna stop?

If "the man" has you that paranoid, you're in bigger trouble than anything the removal of the flight recorder is going to fix.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Well let me set you straight on what REALLY went down on Saturday night.... You made a cell call at 10:31 to the Rabbit (aka John the crazy Rabbit) to set up a buy. Next at 10:40 we have your GPS placing you driving to the lot behind the liquor store on 13th street. Your "meeting" then took place with the Crazy Rabbit and you preceded to rob and murder him utilizing your trusted Glock 9 (we have the gun! We have the gun!) Next at 11:03 you fully depressed your accelerator to (no doubt) get the hell out of there with the quickness before "The Man" arrived. Next you went to your hoochie mama’s pad and smoked the stolen crack and watched reruns of Bullwinkle until 4:am when you slinked back to your hole. We have all the data so you might as well come clean on it because you are going away for a long, long, time.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Most state law enforcement agencies, and some city police departments have equipment to retrieve crash info from a vehicle's restraint module after an impact.

And let's clarify how the infamous "black box" operates. Its primary function is to monitor the restraint system's operation, and to deploy the airbag(s) in the event of a crash. It doesn't store information from the day your truck is first driven off the assembly line. It only stores about 5-10 seconds worth of information in a crash, things like vehicle speed, force of impact, whether or not there was a passenger riding shotgun, whether or not the occupants had their seat belts buckled, things like that.

It's not monitoring how you run 100 mph down the road to work every morning, or that you got a large coffee and a Sausage McMuffin at Mickey D's for breakfast last Monday, or that you and your girlfriend were getting freaky in the backseat last week, so you conspiracy theorists can loosen your tin foil caps just a bit.
 

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OnBelay
You are completely ignoring the fact that fuel trims, operating temperatures, transmission shift points, and numerous other parts other driveability "habits" are learned by this computer, so that the truck can offer the best performance under the current operating conditions.

If you're that concerned about how you are driving right before a crash, be sure to take out all the eye witnesses and any possible background information available (like the tuner you attached, the higher-speed rated tires you installed, any other performance mods) as well as participation in any internet website that advocates the installation of performance mods, any comments you ever make on a website regarding a speeding ticket you got, your entire driver history, even credit card receipts for that night of fun going to the go cart track...where you gonna stop?

If "the man" has you that paranoid, you're in bigger trouble than anything the removal of the flight recorder is going to fix.
I wasn't "completely ignoring" the fact about its other uses, I just simply didn't include them because every use you stated is beneficial for the driver or whomever services the vehicle to pull crucial info if needed.

The question was asked "why would you want to disable it?", so I listed a few reasons why someone may want to disable it... Here's an article that illustrates these reasons also:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...es_states.html

And "the man" doesn't have me paranoid, it was figure of speech. I think you may need to switch that cup of coffee in your post to decaf. Just a suggestion.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by C-17 Pilot
Easy. It's the posterior distribution of the binomial parameter (i.e., Bayes theory applied to the binomial distribution).

Where's my cookie?
DING DING DING!



We also use a variation of that in our email everyday... also known as Bayesian spam filteration.

(linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_spam_filtering )
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
...or that you and your girlfriend were getting freaky in the backseat last week...
Man, I love my extended cab...
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
Man, I love my extended cab...
I miss how I could fold my seat down, and turn it into a bed... so I can have fun with hot girls in the middle of the night...

Too bad I didn't get none.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quintin
Most state law enforcement agencies, and some city police departments have equipment to retrieve crash info from a vehicle's restraint module after an impact.

And let's clarify how the infamous "black box" operates. Its primary function is to monitor the restraint system's operation, and to deploy the airbag(s) in the event of a crash. It doesn't store information from the day your truck is first driven off the assembly line. It only stores about 5-10 seconds worth of information in a crash, things like vehicle speed, force of impact, whether or not there was a passenger riding shotgun, whether or not the occupants had their seat belts buckled, things like that.

It's not monitoring how you run 100 mph down the road to work every morning, or that you got a large coffee and a Sausage McMuffin at Mickey D's for breakfast last Monday, or that you and your girlfriend were getting freaky in the backseat last week, so you conspiracy theorists can loosen your tin foil caps just a bit.
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Nothing to worry about. Also most of the time they don't both looking at them.
 
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